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[Donald Stanfield]

You are absolutely clueless about what you’re talking about. The only reason you should prefer the R1T is if you want a smaller truck, cannot adapt to the unusual appearance or driving characteristics of the CT, or prefer the lower price point.

The CT has a smaller turn radius, 800 V architecture, FSD, bigger interior, bigger bed, power tonneau, and a more durable exterior finish.

I have 30k+ miles on my T and 15k on my CT. I would not choose the R1T for most reasons other than maybe towing or solo camping. And even then if it’s a long drive the FSD is about 20X better than Driver+.

The R1 is now stuck in a weird place where it’s very expensive, doesn’t quite have the specs to match its competitors in terms of utility, and a bad reputation for production irregularities. Like my doors still don’t close like they should on my T but they are fine on the S. And I’ve had all of them in to service more times than I care to remember.

So unless you just can't get used to how ugly the CT is, how many people laugh at you or how goofy it drives the CT is the bestest truck ever. Do you guys even read the stuff you write? That more durable exterior that gets a voided warranty if you take it through a car wash or has permanent staining if you leave bird poop on it too long? Bigger bed that you cannot reach from the sides of the truck AT all thanks to those ugly ass triangles. Better hop in every time you need to strap any thing down, that's not at all a hassle instead of foot on the tire to do so on the Rivian.

FSD is about to be recalled, it's currently under federal investigation for killing people. Not to mention the lack of the most basic of features like turn signal stalks, a 360 overhead camera view and a driver's dashboard display. For 100K Elmo couldn't even add the extra screen? What about the frunk that's comically tiny or the massive blind spots?

The Cybertruck doesn't even meet the most basic standards for any other car let alone be superior to one.

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[SANZC02]

The article doesn’t quote any sources, which is journalism 101 stuff. First of all, he is wrong on 1 million reservations. Second, he failed to quote the source for 2.5% conversion rate. A garbage hit job.

Not saying it was a great article, not the only one out there, google this “ tesla finished all cybertruck reservations”.

“There's none so blind as those who will not see.” - John Heywood

 

[Zoidz]

You are absolutely clueless about what you’re talking about. The only reason you should prefer the R1T is if you want a smaller truck, cannot adapt to the unusual appearance or driving characteristics of the CT, or prefer the lower price point.

I think this inane statement qualifies as a new entry in “Laugh of the Day”.

 

[cardad]

I think this inane statement qualifies as a new entry in “Laugh of the Day”.

You literally said nothing except used a fancy word for silly and that is supposed to mean something? Did you just finish high school?

 

[cardad]

So unless you just can't get used to how ugly the CT is, how many people laugh at you or how goofy it drives the CT is the bestest truck ever. Do you guys even read the stuff you write? That more durable exterior that gets a voided warranty if you take it through a car wash or has permanent staining if you leave bird poop on it too long? Bigger bed that you cannot reach from the sides of the truck AT all thanks to those ugly ass triangles. Better hop in every time you need to strap any thing down, that's not at all a hassle instead of foot on the tire to do so on the Rivian.

FSD is about to be recalled, it's currently under federal investigation for killing people. Not to mention the lack of the most basic of features like turn signal stalks, a 360 overhead camera view and a driver's dashboard display. For 100K Elmo couldn't even add the extra screen? What about the frunk that's comically tiny or the massive blind spots?

The Cybertruck doesn't even meet the most basic standards for any other car let alone be superior to one.

Just FYI I own many vehicles not just Rivians and a CT. I have owned over 40 vehicles over the course of circa 1 M miles of usage and understand more than your average person about features and usability etc. you can talk up a storm all you want but that doesn’t add up to meaningful dialogue. Go ahead and bury your head in the sand if you’d like. Or we could describe the experience of driving thousands of miles at a time with FSD vs Driver+, having 3 kids and a dog in the back of a R1T, being over 6’ tall and having your knees jammed into the front for long drives, charging at EA vs Tesla etc etc. I’m just giving you facts here. I know the Rivian crowd has some major tribal status anxiety but you need to chill ok. Like the Cybertruck is way better than my R1T. If you owned both you’d figure it out too. I’m not talking about looks. If looks were all that mattered I’m not sure the Rivian wins that contest either.

 

[Animalhouse]

This thread went off the rails I think.

It should t really matter which EV brand or truck you like/prefer. It’s our own money and research we do that should matter. Some people followed their company of choice for years and like where they were going and supported those companies by buying their product.

I followed Rivian since they were first mentioned Years ago (makes me feel that much older now). I have been grilled by family/co workers and even random people about “why would you want an EV”, or am I out to save the planet, they would toss politics into it, and of course everyone’s fav “well all that money your saving going to go to get your battery replaced……that last one I am so tired of.

YET now lately with more EV’s on the road and even some sitting in the dealership car lots the old questions have changed to ones like “so what do you like about an EV”, “do you really save having one”. This is in north Alabama and I’m not saying we’re country hicks just people wanting to have no buyers remorse and get our moneys worth just like everyone else.

So I say give people and companies more choices and let the EV’s be brought.

 

[George Kaplan]

If, if Tesla had stuck to their original CT pricing, or even launched at prices somewhat close to those original prices... it could have been a huge hit. But when the first CT's produced are $125K... that's a long way away from $39,990

This is why I counsel caution on the Scout unveiling. There is lots of both jubilation (what a great deal!) and hand-wringing (this will kill Rivian!).

Wait until Scout is anywhere close to delivering product and see how much (A) prices increased, and (B) specs slipped.

I have no data but I imagine a significant portion of the 2 million preorders were built upon a $40K starting price. As we know, the final product was twice as expensive as a starting price and almost 3X for the initial FS. Additionally, some promised features and performance metrics from the unveiling never came to the final product.

Of course, the interest Tesla made on 2M $100 deposits over several years worked out well in the short term, but if inventory piles up it will not be pretty for the stock or the company image.

Meantime, let Scout figure out how to build a production line, train a crew, and build a car that checks every promised box, including price. I have no use for either of their models—my R1T is as big as I need to go as I approach retirement, and the e-tron will probably be replaced by an R2 in a few years—but Scout acolytes may want to find the cybertruck launch as instructive.

 

[DrBad]

To cancel a Cybertruck reservation:

Log in to your Tesla account
Select your Cybertruck order and click Manage
Click Request to Cancel
Select a reason for canceling
Add any feedback and click Submit Cancelation
Click Yes, Cancel

My $100 refund showed up in my bank acct in two days.

FYI, if you paid your CT deposit with a credit card and the number or expiration date has since changed, the refund likely won't go through, even though when following the above steps it will say you've received a refund. It's impossible to get a response from Tesla on this, they do not return emails and their phone maze is designed to never allow you to talk to a person. Messages left with finance and local dealers go unanswered. Took me several months to get my refund and the solution was to file a complaint with the Texas BBB. Tesla responded within a day and I got a refund check in a couple of weeks.

 

[MountainBikeDude]

One thing that's intrigued me so far in Vancouver BC, is the lack of cybertrucks. I've seen two so far on this side of the border, one with BC plates, the other with California plates.

I know Tesla is able to sell them on this side of the boarder now, but I wonder how many are willing to put 165k Maple Syrups plus tax and Luxury tax for one.

This is the price breakdown for BC

 

[George Kaplan]

The CT has a big problem coming, and ironically the thing that made it, is the thing that will kill it.

Its unique until it isnt. And when it isnt, its tacky.

Remember buying those designer ripped jeans that had the same rip as the next person that bought them? Well, that is how it will feel.

Its a flawed vehicle in many ways, buts unique so who cares, until you do.

Its time is coming and it isnt aging well.

I’m old enough to remember when there was a waiting list for the PT Cruiser, and folks were paying way above sticker to get one.

Then, two things happened: They became common enough that they were no longer special, and those who owned them sobered up quickly when they realized they owned a Chrysler product.

The in-your-face ugliness of the CT is its point. When it no longer has the ability to shock or catch an eye on the road, then the owners will have to decide if the design compromises are worth their monthly installment on the car loan. That loan may be a chafing point if Tesla decides to cut prices to move CT inventory, as it did with Model 3 previously, instantly depreciating prior owners’ vehicles.

For those who love the vehicle, God bless you. I wish you a bazillion trouble-free miles. I’m simply saying just as the tide comes in, it goes back out, and the next 12 months may see a backlash to CT with a combination of unsold new inventory and a rise of bored/disillusioned owners trading their CT for something else.

 

[Noplacelikeloam]

I’m old enough to remember when there was a waiting list for the PT Cruiser, and folks were paying way above sticker to get one.

Then, two things happened: They became common enough that they were no longer special, and those who owned them sobered up quickly when they realized they owned a Chrysler product.

The in-your-face ugliness of the CT is its point. When it no longer has the ability to shock or catch an eye on the road, then the owners will have to decide if the design compromises are worth their monthly installment on the car loan. That loan may be a chafing point if Tesla decides to cut prices to move CT inventory, as it did with Model 3 previously, instantly depreciating prior owners’ vehicles.

For those who love the vehicle, God bless you. I wish you a bazillion trouble-free miles. I’m simply saying just as the tide comes in, it goes back out, and the next 12 months may see a backlash to CT with a combination of unsold new inventory and a rise of bored/disillusioned owners trading their CT for something else.

spot on. The PT Cruiser analogy is a good one. I already cringe every time I see a CT, when at first I kind of liked them.

 

[mini2nut]

The numbers show the reservation conversion rate to be around 3%. In other words 97% of reservation holders neglected to place an order.

The barrier to entry is the premium price tag of $80k+. The lack of a qualifying for the $7500 tax credit doesn‘t help sales either.

I predict the $61k RWD Cybertruck is coming sooner than expected.

As a side note Ford is shutting down the F-150 Lightning assembly line for the remainder of the year due to lack of demand.

 

[SANZC02]

The numbers show the reservation conversion rate to be around 3%. In other words 97% of reservation holders neglected to place an order.

The barrier to entry is the premium price tag of $80k+. The lack of a qualifying for the $7500 tax credit doesn‘t help sales either.

I predict the $61k RWD Cybertruck is coming sooner than expected.

As a side note Ford is shutting down the F-150 Lightning assembly line for the remainder of the year due to lack of demand.

Even 60k might be a budget buster for many people who initially placed the deposits thinking it would be 40k. There is a big difference between 40k and 60k. I was never a fan of a $100 deposit, you really can’t gauge the real demand at that price.

I thought the 1k deposit Rivian had for the R1S was a good indicator of real interest, was disappointed when they went to $100 on the R2. I think $500, or even $300 would give a better indicator of perspective conversions from reservation to order on the R2.

 

[ThirteenElectrics]

I just wish Driver+ did not suck. Otherwise, it is the perfect vehicle.

Volvo has their own driver assist team that employs a hundred people. They also have LIDAR. Unless Rivian gets big enough to make that kind of investment, they are better off outsourcing it to Mobileye. But that means it won’t be any better than anyone else’s system.

 

[mkg3]

Lots have changed since the CT was introduced and the reservation book opened.

The latest KBB.com EV sales report shed some light on the entire EV sales.
https://www.coxautoinc.com/wp-conte...-EV-Sales-Report-Q3-2024-revised-10-14-24.pdf

Here's the screen shot of how every maker fared:

And CT vs Rivian comparison:

The column aligns with the first image.

The CT YTD is more than R!S, which is somewhat surprising. Not surprised that CT was the best selling EV truck in Q3.

There's only so many people who can/want to spend over $100K for any vehicle, let alone on a truck. The number goes down exponentially as the price increases from there. The sweet spot, as RJ correctly noted during R2 event, for people is around $40~$50K/vehicle regardless of type.

The other observation is that with all the Elon bashing found in the media about how it's affecting Tesla sales, the numbers dont support that notion. For Q3, there is an increase of units and YTD, while its down a bit, its far less than the other major automakers and is better than overall decline in the auto sales.

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