R1 Traditional Suspension Kit?

[SwampNut]

Yes let’s remove one of the key, best features of the vehicle. It will make room for a fart can muffler and neon too. Maybe a ricer wing, and camber out the wheels.

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[Eric9610]

Yes let’s remove one of the key, best features of the vehicle. It will make room for a fart can muffler and neon too. Maybe a ricer wing, and camber out the wheels.

You missed the point. It is over engendered and fails prematurely... If you executed this right the suspension should last over 120k miles before needing complete replacement. Cars in this class and more expensive don't have the shitty failures the Rivian suffers from. The fact that you need to spend $8k plus in less than 5 years of ownership on suspension replacement is unacceptable.

 

[Dark-Fx]

You missed the point. It is over engendered and fails prematurely... If you executed this right the suspension should last over 120k miles before needing complete replacement. Cars in this class and more expensive don't have the shitty failures the Rivian suffers from. The fact that you need to spend $8k plus in less than 5 years of ownership on suspension replacement is unacceptable.

Really? Expensive cars don't normally have expensive repairs? I had to replace the shocks on my GMC Sonoma around 50k miles and again before I even hit 100k. It was cheap though, because it wasn't an expensive vehicle.

 

[Eric9610]

Really? Expensive cars don't normally have expensive repairs? I had to replace the shocks on my GMC Sonoma around 50k miles and again before I even hit 100k. It was cheap though, because it wasn't an expensive vehicle.

The Rivian is not an expensive car... It may be the most expensive you have owned. Its costs are not in alignment with $72k cars. I have never had to replace suspension on any car I have owned and several have had over 120k miles. Sticker on some over $90k...

 

[SwampNut]

Cars in this class and more expensive don't have the shitty failures the Rivian suffers from.

False. I bought the Rivian from a Land Rover dealer, it used to belong to the service manager. He was talking to me about the $28k machine he just bought to fix the same failure on their cars. They are just starting to see them more often.

What color neon are you going with?

 

[Dark-Fx]

The Rivian is not an expensive car... It may be the most expensive you have owned. Its costs are not in alignment with $72k cars. I have never had to replace suspension on any car I have owned and several have had over 120k miles. Sticker on some over $90k...

You're looking at it through the eyes of someone who got their vehicle way below cost. Sticker on a new quad R1T is around $120k.

 

[Eric9610]

You're looking at it through the eyes of someone who got their vehicle way below cost. Sticker on a new quad R1T is around $120k.

Whats the cost on a standard range R1T today? Uses same parts.

 

[SwampNut]

You're looking at it through the eyes of someone who got their vehicle way below cost. Sticker on a new quad R1T is around $120k.

And the myopic eye of just talking about one failure point, on some number of vehicles, and we don't know what percentage. I've had friends spend $8k on turbos, $5k-9k on transmissions, and a neighbor just spent $12k on an engine, all under 100k miles. Shit happens.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Whats the cost on a standard range R1T today? Uses same parts.

Rivian has the unfortunate problem of having to support first generation vehicles with a somewhat unproven design under warranty. It's one of the reasons a lot of people were willing to buy into it though, the B2B warranty period was exceptional at the time. And they aren't putting old designs into vehicles that have had things fail.

 

[Erik+]

Yes let’s remove one of the key, best features of the vehicle. It will make room for a fart can muffler and neon too. Maybe a ricer wing, and camber out the wheels.

Here ya go...

 

[beatle]

Whats the cost on a standard range R1T today? Uses same parts.

As if this actually matters, but it would be better to use the average sale price. Most vehicles are not the base trim.

See the cost to repair Mercedes ABC or Lexus AHC suspension.

 

[Riviot]

I think a more reasonable solution is for them to engineer an out of warranty replacement version that can be purchased and installed for say $5-6k. (all 4 corners included) essentially a 1 and done after the first replacement of air suspension that seems to be failing at 67k miles. They could even sell 3 version / positions for the suspension Low, STD, High and let users choose the fixed height. This would be a win / win and the engineering is not so significant.

Lose/lose for Rivian actually.

They make less money on the replacement, it lasts longer. Terrible business decision for them. They've proven they're focused on the service profitability, which comes from vehicles that systematically break on schedule, which they can charge $235/hr to repair.

 

[Zoidz]

You missed the point. It is over engendered and fails prematurely... If you executed this right the suspension should last over 120k miles before needing complete replacement. Cars in this class and more expensive don't have the shitty failures the Rivian suffers from. The fact that you need to spend $8k plus in less than 5 years of ownership on suspension replacement is unacceptable.

Google will disagree with you. Google any of the following:
G Wagon air suspension failure
Range Rover air suspension failure
Hummer air suspension failure
and the design basis for our R1 Rivians - McLaren - you think someone put 120k miles on a McLaren?
Tenneco/Monroe is the McLaren and Rivian OEM

 

[Jonger1150]

Yes let’s remove one of the key, best features of the vehicle. It will make room for a fart can muffler and neon too. Maybe a ricer wing, and camber out the wheels.

I'd guess the vehicle would pitch back and forth coming out of corners. Probably a lot of porpusing.

 

[Zoul]

Air suspension is really not that complicated or expensive to do aftermarket, the far better solution would be to retrofit aftermarket air components to the stock system. The rear air bags are separate from the strut/damper. The fronts look to be a tubular/cylindrical air "bag" that slides over the strut. It looks to be held on with a snap ring.

The hydraulic system might be a different story as far as replacement but it could be possible to rebuild the dampers. The accumulator and control solenoids appear to be serviceable. And the rear dampers appear to have a hex head at the top, but I can't find any great pictures of them.

Another option could be to find what other vehicles use the same components from factory, though I am doubtful any others fall into a category of "cheaper". The air "bags" do appear similar to what is on ram trucks.

It some point after I am finally able to get a rivian I will probably try to source some used dampers and attempt repair myself. But this will probably be a while.

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