Group Buy/Purchase for a Rivian Service Account with Access to RiDE Software Salvage Titles where are you?

[viperbmw69]

Hello,
I am a DIYer and working on a 22 R1T that is a salvage title. I am chasing down gremlins currently. Rivian is very difficult to get information and do diagnostics without the Software.

I am proposing a group buy for the 5500/yr Service Account.

I own an LLC and Will use that for the account. I am an IT Pro so I plan to Create a few different ways to use the Service Account such as
1. remote diagnostic using fancy ethernet tunneling on custom devices, This will allow me to use RiDE software remotely on your vehicle.
2. We can work together to get access to the Manuals and Software we need for DIYer repairs and updates. Using the LLC as a front view.
3. We will not be breaking any of their rules to use the software in this way.

I am proposing we get 11 users at 500 a piece.

I will handle the tech stuff. If nothing else I can just mail the Laptop with the Software on it to you


Who is in?
Please DM me or Message on FB to actually get started.
Payment will not be needed until we are all ready to purchase
ME = 500

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[tplociniak]

I really love you are trying to do this and make a way to distribute to a wider group. I hope you get enough interest to make it happen and others begin trying to repair, modify, and work on these vehicles more and more

 

[Nixapatfan]

There probably aren't enough people doing enough DIY work that requires RIDE to justify $500 yearly subscription. Most of the basic maintenance items don't need computer access and doubt many are going to take on swapping batteries, inverters, motors and computers themselves.

There is a lot this community has solved so if there is anything specific you are chasing, search the forum or open a thread if no results. There are some 3rd party places like electrified garage that may be able to assist with diagnostics.

 

[RIV1]

Hello,
I am a DIYer and working on a 22 R1T that is a salvage title. I am chasing down gremlins currently. Rivian is very difficult to get information and do diagnostics without the Software.

I am proposing a group buy for the 5500/yr Service Account.

I own an LLC and Will use that for the account. I am an IT Pro so I plan to Create a few different ways to use the Service Account such as
1. remote diagnostic using fancy ethernet tunneling on custom devices, This will allow me to use RiDE software remotely on your vehicle.
2. We can work together to get access to the Manuals and Software we need for DIYer repairs and updates. Using the LLC as a front view.
3. We will not be breaking any of their rules to use the software in this way.

I am proposing we get 11 users at 500 a piece.

I will handle the tech stuff. If nothing else I can just mail the Laptop with the Software on it to you


Who is in?
Please DM me or Message on FB to actually get started.
Payment will not be needed until we are all ready to purchase
ME = 500

I think this is a great idea! I’m usually a DIYer and would definitely be interested when I get bigger in mileage…only at 10k.

 

[ERod818]

I’d be in if there are enough members willing to join. I have a salvage R1T myself and have had nothing but bad experiences with Rivian up to this point.

 

[mkhuffman]

I’d be in if there are enough members willing to join. I have a salvage R1T myself and have had nothing but bad experiences with Rivian up to this point.

Maybe don't by a salvaged vehicle next time.

 

[TheIglu]

It's less effort to just move to the next thread than post something like this.

Thanks for going out of your way to make this community less helpful.

 

[ERod818]

Maybe don't by a salvaged vehicle next time.

Thread title is literally calling for salvage title owners. Thanks for your post though, very helpful to the community.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Thread title is literally calling for salvage title owners. Thanks for your post though, very helpful to the community.

I think the issue here is your whining about how Rivian hasn't helped you, despite your purchase of a salvage vehicle. IDK if this is your first salvage vehicle purchase, but all manufacturers do as little as they can to deal with a vehicle that has a salvage title. Once a vehicle is branded salvage it loses all manufacturer support, no matter what vehicle it is. It is unfair to buy a salvage car then complain about a lack of factory support.

 

[Ralph]

I think the issue here is your whining about how Rivian hasn't helped you, despite your purchase of a salvage vehicle. IDK if this is your first salvage vehicle purchase, but all manufacturers do as little as they can to deal with a vehicle that has a salvage title. Once a vehicle is branded salvage it loses all manufacturer support, no matter what vehicle it is. It is unfair to buy a salvage car then complain about a lack of factory support.

While there may be some truth in this argument, you can a) buy parts from most mfgs and b) buy or lease access to service manuals at more reasonable prices. A few even allow access to be leased for short periods of time.

Yes, this thread appears to be driven by salvage title, but "right to repair" is going to be an increasing issue for Rivian. Not everyone buying $45k R2s expect to pay Rivian labor rates and wait months for service.

 

[ERod818]

I think the issue here is your whining about how Rivian hasn't helped you, despite your purchase of a salvage vehicle. IDK if this is your first salvage vehicle purchase, but all manufacturers do as little as they can to deal with a vehicle that has a salvage title. Once a vehicle is branded salvage it loses all manufacturer support, no matter what vehicle it is. It is unfair to buy a salvage car then complain about a lack of factory support.

Actually this is my 6th salvage titled vehicle bought at auction, first EV. Never had any issues with any of the other vehicles from Acura, Ford, Chevy, GMC, Audi. Most was able to simply purchase parts even online and from dealers directly. Most issues cleared with basic scan tools. And every dealer I’ve gone to serviced the vehicles without a salvage vehicle inspection. Of course no warranty on any of them but that is expected. Not whining, just sad that a vehicle I own outright I can not freely work on. Can’t even get parts for it from Rivian unless they perform the repair themselves.

 

[mkhuffman]

While there may be some truth in this argument, you can a) buy parts from most mfgs and b) buy or lease access to service manuals at more reasonable prices. A few even allow access to be leased for short periods of time.

Yes, this thread appears to be driven by salvage title, but "right to repair" is going to be an increasing issue for Rivian. Not everyone buying $45k R2s expect to pay Rivian labor rates and wait months for service.

This is a valid argument, but complaining about problems after buying a salvaged vehicle seems ridiculous to me.

Actually this is my 6th salvage titled vehicle bought at auction, first EV. Never had any issues with any of the other vehicles from Acura, Ford, Chevy, GMC, Audi. Most was able to simply purchase parts even online and from dealers directly. Most issues cleared with basic scan tools. And every dealer I’ve gone to serviced the vehicles without a salvage vehicle inspection. Of course no warranty on any of them but that is expected. Not whining, just sad that a vehicle I own outright I can not freely work on. Can’t even get parts for it from Rivian unless they perform the repair themselves.

I may have misunderstood your post, and if so, I apologize.

IMO it isn't reasonable to buy a salvaged vehicle and then complain about the problems. You should not assume that every vehicle manufacturer has the same level of self-repair support, especially one that has been manufacturing trucks for less than five years.

Seriously. You can complain you didn't do your homework, but complaining about the lack of support from Rivian is unreasonable.

Look at the threads in this forum from guys in places like Ukraine who got salvaged R1s and did amazing repair work to get them running. They never complained once. They used their grit without any support from Rivian.

Anyway, I find this thread interesting because I also would like the ability to repair my own truck. One day Rivian will support that. For now, you will just have to do it like those guys do it in Ukraine - creativity and determination. And please don't complain about it. Just get it done. Or give up and move on.

 

[beatle]

This is a valid argument, but complaining about problems after buying a salvaged vehicle seems ridiculous to me.

The problems are a product of Rivian's walled garden, not being able to troubleshoot and repair your own vehicle. This isn't a "why is this salvaged vehicle so unreliable?" or "why won't Rivian fix my salvage vehicle under warranty?" post.

You should not assume that every vehicle manufacturer has the same level of self-repair support, especially one that has been manufacturing trucks for less than five years.

You definitely should be able to assume that. Having the absolute basic ability to troubleshoot and repair your vehicle should be the rule, not the exception. While I don't think it needs to be gratis, $5500/yr is extortion.

Look at the threads in this forum from guys in places like Ukraine who got salvaged R1s and did amazing repair work to get them running. They never complained once. They used their grit without any support from Rivian.

"Used their grit." I'm sure all of those methods were on the up and up. Simply bringing a vehicle back to a working state should not require a high-level of technical trail blazing.

Anyway, I find this thread interesting because I also would like the ability to repair my own truck. One day Rivian will support that. For now, you will just have to do it like those guys do it in Ukraine - creativity and determination. And please don't complain about it. Just get it done. Or give up and move on.

I didn't see OP complaining about anything. It looked like he was asking to share the cost of acquiring Rivian's prohibitively expensive software tools, and being resourceful in doing that. I would not bank on Rivian doing anything in the future to allow individual owners to fix their vehicles without an incredible investment in service software licensing. They definitely won't do it if all their owners just wait and hope for them to do the right thing. You still can't buy the parts. Tesla is the same way which is a big part of why I stopped buying their cars, and with Rivian taking the same stance, I won't be getting another Rivian.

 

[ERod818]

Point is I would like the ability to work on my own car so I’m in.
ME = 500

 

[mkhuffman]

The problems are a product of Rivian's walled garden, not being able to troubleshoot and repair your own vehicle. This isn't a "why is this salvaged vehicle so unreliable?" or "why won't Rivian fix my salvage vehicle under warranty?" post.



You definitely should be able to assume that. Having the absolute basic ability to troubleshoot and repair your vehicle should be the rule, not the exception. While I don't think it needs to be gratis, $5500/yr is extortion.



"Used their grit." I'm sure all of those methods were on the up and up. Simply bringing a vehicle back to a working state should not require a high-level of technical trail blazing.



I didn't see OP complaining about anything. It looked like he was asking to share the cost of acquiring Rivian's prohibitively expensive software tools, and being resourceful in doing that. I would not bank on Rivian doing anything in the future to allow individual owners to fix their vehicles without an incredible investment in service software licensing. They definitely won't do it if all their owners just wait and hope for them to do the right thing. You still can't buy the parts. Tesla is the same way which is a big part of why I stopped buying their cars, and with Rivian taking the same stance, I won't be getting another Rivian.

The OP didn't complain and that was not the post I was responding to.

The OP started a very interesting "project" and that is why I am following this thread. I agree we should be able to repair our own vehicles and that Rivian should open up so it is easier to do it.

I have sidetracked this thread enough. We don't need to keep beating the dead horse. Carry on!

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