The Rivian R2 Reviews are Here!!! 656 HP, 609 lb-ft

[macb00kemdanno]

RJ has already said the R3 is built on the same platform as the R2 (skateboard style). Just the body is different. So they can be the same size batteries as long as they are between wheel wells.

Same platform, shorter wheelbase —not the same distance between the front and rear wheels. It’d be hard to fit this in a smaller vehicle:

Also, pricing would also be a factor in what is supposed to be a cheaper vehicle (re: 95 kWh).

I’ve been known to be wrong though before

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[mkhuffman]

The Lucid Gravity struggles to get 3.0 mi/kWh at highway speeds. I have a hard time believing the R2 is more aerodynamic than the Gravity. At best, it will hit 2.8 mi/kWh at highway speeds.

2.8 x 95 = 266 miles of range at highway speeds. Best case.

Will all 95 kWh be usable? What if they limit useable capacity to 90 kWh, like I had in my Mach-e (technically 91 kWh)? I was lucky to get 180 miles of highway range in the winter in my Mach-e. Summer highway was 220 miles.

Not great at all. But hey, Ford is selling a good number of Mach-e, so maybe that will be the same for the R2.

 

[savethemanual]

Going off of specs alone, It seems a given the R2 will not be class leading with range and DCFC speeds...especially with the latest entrants across the pond. However, there's an entire experience that comes with a vehicle and I'm pretty sure Rivian will get that right, at least with the demographic they are targeting.

 

[skyguyscott]

I think all this speculation about range, capacity, etc. is somewhat a waste of time as we will know with certainty soon enough.

The big key question RJ and co. are wrestling with is how well will it sell. It's likely to sell better than the R1 simply due to the lower price point. Buyers will no doubt compare specs to other vehicles in its class, but then there are the nebulous factors such as styling, brand buy-in, knowing another owner, and so on.

Some buyers are Rivian fans and will buy an R2 regardless. Some buyers have no idea who Rivian is and if they buy an EV, will only buy from a Brand they are familiar with or has a dealership nearby regardless. Some buyers will simply buy the vehicle that has the best specs in the class they need, at their price (either sticker or monthly payment) but given the current economy, only buyers that are in need are going to be in this market. Luckily, due to industry-wide inventory shortages, that is an above-average number of potential buyers. Most everyone one else is going to wait until they have to buy -- in other words, few if any "impulse buyers, " or "like-to-have" buyers.

 

[kxev]

Here is how I am betting they roughly stack:

$45k - 75 kwh RWD, ~260 EPA / ~230 hwy 70 mph range, 10% - 80% ~25 min
$52k - 75 kwh AWD, ~250 EPA / ~215 hwy 70 mph range, 10% - 80% ~32 min
$59k - 95 kwh RWD, ~320 EPA / ~285 hwy 70 mph range, 10% - 80% ~30 min
$65k - 95 kwh AWD, ~305 EPA / ~270 hwy 70 mph range, 10% - 80% ~30 min
$69k - 95 kwh Tri, ~280 EPA / ~255 hwy 70 mph range, 10% - 80% ~30 min

Why does the 75kWh AWD in your example charge much slower than the 75kWh RWD (32 min vs 25 min), but the 95kWh charges at the same rate for AWD and RWD (30 min)?

 

[NC-Rivian]

Why does the 75kWh AWD in your example charge much slower than the 75kWh RWD (32 min vs 25 min), but the 95kWh charges at the same rate for AWD and RWD (30 min)?

I’m sorry. In this day and age and with the current technology, slow charging is just not acceptable. Both my R1T and R1S charge fast enough and hold 205 until the battery heats up and slows the rate. Rivian needs to figure out how to keep 200 far longer.

 

[Gen(R3)Xer]

If that is the case. Key question...what is the up charge from $45k for dual-motor and large battery pack. I have a feeling it is going to be quite significant. The answer to that question could make or break the success of the R2. Dual-motor/Large pack is going to be the volume seller. It is $7k to go from R1S Dual Standard to R1S Dual Large.

And another $7,000 from the Large Pack to the Max Pack, but I don’t physically think they can fit a Max pack in the R2. The LG 4695s are supposed to be 30% more energy dense, I think.

Hm… It’s hard to say. I think the launch model will be special, probably somewhere between $55K and $60K. Early adopters and influencers will pay the premium.

The non-launch dual-motor might be $53K, but it can’t have a range of under 300 miles. That’s just unacceptable for a $50K+ vehicle in 2026.

I also remember a recent RJ interview where the host, I think it was Daniel Tosh, referenced charging $60K for the launch R2. RJ said he wished (presumably to boost profits), so I don’t think it’s going to come in that high.

Hopefully we find out specs and price this coming Tuesday, February 10th.

 

[usulio]

The Lucid Gravity struggles to get 3.0 mi/kWh at highway speeds. I have a hard time believing the R2 is more aerodynamic than the Gravity. At best, it will hit 2.8 mi/kWh at highway speeds.

This might be a little pessimistic. The Gravity is a bit larger. Also, may depend on what you mean by highway speeds. R1 can get 2.5-2.6 mi/kWh at highway speeds, meaning 70-75 mph (not 80-85).

Anyway, Gravity's EPA range/capacity is 3.6+ mi/kWh, if R2 gets that from the EPA, the range numbers will look very competitive on paper.

 

[elektrode]

PSA: we do not have to rehash range anxiety in every thread

 

[KRG]

Pretty sure they’re going to be very close to Model Y in price and range. That’s been the plan all along. The Tri Motor will be more expensive, but the bread and butter long Range Dual Motor will be competitive with Model Y, has to be.

 

[TexasBob]

Why does the 75kWh AWD in your example charge much slower than the 75kWh RWD (32 min vs 25 min), but the 95kWh charges at the same rate for AWD and RWD (30 min)?

typo. fixed

 

[JasonK]

I’m sorry. In this day and age and with the current technology, slow charging is just not acceptable. Both my R1T and R1S charge fast enough and hold 205 until the battery heats up and slows the rate. Rivian needs to figure out how to keep 200 far longer.

I do believe the new 46/95 batteries are designed to have better charging curves. I bet is charges much faster.

 

[Gen(R3)Xer]

RJ has already said the R3 is built on the same platform as the R2 (skateboard style). Just the body is different. So they can be the same size batteries as long as they are between wheel wells.

I just watched that MKBHD interview with RJ from 2024 and I think they said the R3 is 5 inches shorter than the R2.

 

[macb00kemdanno]

I just watched that MKBHD interview with RJ from 2024 and I think they said the R3 is 5 inches shorter than the R2.

The wheelbase is 5” shorter, but overall length is significantly shorter (allegedly). It’s about 15” shorter overall vs R2.

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/r3-r3x-dimensions-161-4-in-length-59-5-in-height.24983/

 

[blipit]

I do believe the new 46/95 batteries are designed to have better charging curves. I bet is charges much faster.

Yeah, I am more interested in seeing the curve versus peak charging speeds.

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