2025.18 Update Release Notes

[R1Yes]

Whenever the release notes mention improvements specific to Large or Max packs, those of us with Large+ are like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[VandalSibs]

Multi-factor authentication is not for me but yes on the on-demand preconditioning.
Can we just pick what we feel like it’s important rather than get push with everything else?

Multi-factor is optional. If you don't "want it", don't turn it on.

I don't use any of the music streaming apps, but I don't mind that they are part of various updates for those that do.

 

[ndmiller]

Whenever the release notes mention improvements specific to Large or Max packs, those of us with Large+ are like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I saw that, charging improvements mentioned on G1 Max and G2 Max & Standard. What about the other packs for G1/G2?

 

[BTOR]

Multi-factor Drive? Maybe, just maybe, this could be ever so slightly useful to fleet customers? Seems rather ridiculous for consumers. Is there a rampant problem of R1 car thefts or car-jackings? Why was this a priority for the software team?

Probably to keep up with the Jones’s…..

 

[KootenayEV]

A massive bunch of meh for me. Still waiting on launch mode for Gen1.

The most useful of the limited improvements would be battery conditioning, which I might be able to really use 1 month out of the year. Most of the rest of the year my battery temps will be at least 70F. So maybe useful for some.

Maybe along with the energy stuff, I could finally have an estimate at battery level at my destination instead of the almost totally worthless DTE.

Charging times will still suck for the trucks compared to Tesla. Thank god I never use my truck to road trip much or to tow longer distances.


I think conditioning the pack might use more energy that you reclaim on the way down unless it is a really big hill. Last time I used a supercharger, even with my pack pretty warm, it consumed 6% of my charge level on the 4 miles to the charger. I would have been better just skipping that charger, slowing down a bit, and I could have made it home. I thought I'd stop to be safe but it wasted a ton of energy. A lot more than my Teslas do to condition before supercharging.

It isn’t so much about saving energy as it is about saving brakes. It is 4000ft descent from my regular winter playgrounds.

Other place it will be useful is when I tow up to those places and camp in spring through fall. Overnight temps in the mountains are sufficient to reduce the batt temp enough that regen is impaired.

The other good thing about preconditioning on demand, at least in Canada, is that the nav system is ignorant of entire fast charging networks, so it won’t precondition.

 

[kyunam]

When will I see launch mode in Gen 1 quad .. ?

 

[Aardvark]

I will be curious to see how the MFA functions when in a remote area with no cell or internet coverage. I guess as the "owner" I could turn it off. But my wife would not have the permissions to do this.

 

[aAlpine]

I will be curious to see how the MFA functions when in a remote area with no cell or internet coverage. I guess as the "owner" I could turn it off. But my wife would not have the permissions to do this.

The notes say "time-based passcode", so it sounds like other 2FA applications where there's no cell/internet connection required.

 

[Aardvark]

The notes say "time-based passcode", so it sounds like other 2FA applications where there's no cell/internet connection required.

Ah...thanks for the clarification.

 

[mkhuffman]

Can someone explain to me why multi-factor drive is important?

Unfortunately the key does not need to be in the truck in order for the truck to be started and driven off. I have tested this. I put my phone 12 ft from my truck and then I got in the truck started it and put it in reverse. Shocking, actually. The truck should know if the key is inside the cabin or not. But it doesn't apparently.

Imagine you are camping in your RTT. Maybe you've just fallen asleep. And you wake up as someone is driving your truck down the road. It could happen.

Or you're in a restaurant that is close to where your truck is parked. Someone walks by and notices the door latches are open, opens the driver door, gets in and drives off. It could happen.

 

[Shaqdeez]

Who in the world asked for MFA??? What a waste of development time when they know there many other features people have been asking for OR better yet work on optimizing the UI and fixing bugs.

 

[CANCERDOC]

Would one need to disable multifactor authentication if the vehicle is at the service center for repairs ?

What if the vehicle needs to be valet parked?

 

[godfodder0901]

Who in the world asked for MFA??? What a waste of development time when they know there many other features people have been asking for OR better yet work on optimizing the UI and fixing bugs.

All these complaints about development time are unfounded. They likely leverage the same development LOE for their web MFA, which should be very similar.

 

[VSG]

Who in the world asked for MFA??? What a waste of development time when they know there many other features people have been asking for OR better yet work on optimizing the UI and fixing bugs.

That's a very narrow-minded point of view ... just because you don't know or understand the reasons for the business decision doesn't make it wrong or a "waste". Did you ever consider that maybe MFA support in the vehicle software was a *requirement* for the software JV? Which would mean Billions of dollars was at stake - IF that were the case (and I have no reason to believe this is true, just throwing out a possible hypothetical) then it is something they would implement whether the average customer finds it useful or not. And it has clear implications for fleet use regardless - the EDV/ECV business is a huge part of Rivian's business plans, which people tend to forget. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that some form of MFA is already in use in the Amazon vans, and now they're just exposing that capability in consumer vehicles. Again speculation, but with just a tiny bit of thought it's quite easy to imagine scenarios where this feature makes enormous business sense. And what about the R2, which is also intended for the European market? Do you have any idea at all of the regulatory requirements in Europe? Perhaps MFA is required or will be required over there in the near future under certain conditions? Again, I don't know, and I'm guessing neither do you. But *I'm* not judging Rivan's move out of my ignorance like you are - I'm assuming that I don't know everything and also assuming they have a reason that I don't know about. You, on the other hand, go straight to assuming that this is just some software engineers dicking around on something they find fun, at the expense of the real work that they *should* be doing. Do you really believe that Rivian is run that way?

It takes far more effort to ignore the possibilities and just disparage MFA because you don't think it's of any use to *you* and you can't conceive how it is useful to anyone else.

But if you don't find it useful, then just don't use it. Seriously. And if you don't find the OTA updates useful, then just don't update and keep using your car with the software it shipped with.

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