2026 Scout SUV & Pickup shapes shown before imminent debut

[TTedP]

Silhouette looks like a cousin of the R1 for sure. If it means deeper funding for Rivian and opens up VW dealers as a service center option, I'd be OK with it.

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[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

and opens up VW dealers as a service center option, I'd be OK with it.

Not in scope of technology joint venture.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

I know what you mean. But, they do known how to assemble cars together (as mediocre as VWs have been) with better consistency and at much greater volume better than Rivian. If you understand how auto assembly lines work, that's no small feat. They also know to engineer with better repairability baked in—the one thing not evident in the R1s, even after refresh. Plus, this effort would involve many people they have poached from Rivian and Tesla. AND, by the time it delivers to customers, it may even include input from the VW-Rivian joint venture. Far too soon to dismiss and get too comfortable with the blindfolds.

Agree. The joint venture giving VW the Rivian software might be a big mistake, looking back if the scout is in a similar market.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Agree. The joint venture giving VW the Rivian software might be a big mistake, looking back if the scout is in a similar market.

Not necessarily. They have the bones of the stack. They still have to devise & deliver a user experience that works. And I don't see RJ being foolish enough to give away everything, including Rivian's own X-factor. The biggest thing Rivian gained through the JV is ability to negotiate and secure supply of high-end computing chips that are critical to autonomy (which means zilch to us Gen 1 owners, but is important for Rivian's ability to compete in the marketplace).

Cars are becoming more and more software defined. This is most evident in EVs. This requires a total integration of UX design. VW failed because they had a disjointed approach—a mishmash of new and legacy hardware systems (and software for each). This is the biggest distinction between the newcomers and legacy auto. A recent discussion on a member's experience with his rented Hummer EV is a great example; interfaces that looked like they belong to different cars.

 

[Ralph]

Not necessarily. They have the bones of the stack. They still have to devise & deliver a user experience that works. And I don't see RJ being foolish enough to give away everything, including Rivian's own X-factor. The biggest thing Rivian gained through the JV is ability to negotiate and secure supply of high-end computing chips that are critical to autonomy (which means zilch to us Gen 1 owners, but is important for Rivian's ability to compete in the marketplace).

Cars are becoming more and more software defined. This is most evident in EVs. This requires a total integration of UX design. VW failed because they had a disjointed approach—a mishmash of new and legacy hardware systems (and software for each). This is the biggest distinction between the newcomers and legacy auto. A recent discussion on a member's experience with his rented Hummer EV is a great example; interfaces that looked like they belong to different cars.

Purchasing power, particularly for the R2/R3 is indeed a thing. Rivian already has commitments for the limited numbers of Nvidia, etc. they need for the R1 2nd gen.

In the short to mid term, VW's potential $5 billion investment seems at least as big a gain.

 

[BigSkies]

If Scout happens to deliver the best of Rivian with the best of VW, it would be a massive win.

I don’t think the likelihood of that is particularly high though. They might do it, but I’m not convinced.

My expectations are kinda similar to the Id.buzz reveal and launch. It will look amazingly cool and get everyone’s hopes up. Then price and specs are revealed to a resounding shoulder shrug.

 

[iansriv]

Cars are like women. They come in all shapes and sizes and I love them all.

 

[HokieR1T]

Silhouette is a 2005 Range Rover, but if it has a straight, vertical B pillar, angled up glass at the rear pillar (as appropriated by Lexus GX470) and some bold diagonal graphics (like WV has for their IDBuzz) it'll look "Scout" enough.

If it has the quarter window, I'm 100% in.

 

[AllInev]

??

 

[AllInev]

Cars are like women. They come in all shapes and sizes and I love them all.

Actually, cars are like forums members, benign but offensive in most ways.

 

[atebit]

I heard Henrik Fisker is available on a consultation basis for design elements

Nah, he only made one truck.
For Gumby.

 

[Rade]

We are fans of the YouTube channel "Auto Line Daily". All we see are announcements about "This EV company is (building / starting production / moving locations / etc.)..." followed by the expected production roll out to be "End of 2025 / 2026 / 2030" with the same news repeated a week later with the "...target date moved out further / financiers backed out / local governments not willing to play / etc." Scout was reported in all of the above categories.

I was intrigued by Scout. Loved the old International line. But it is getting the underpinnings (according to Auto Line) from VW. Aside from having a dubious delivery date, VW just does not know how to make vehicles. WAY... WAY too many quality issues, and if I am going to be investing $80k of my money in something, I'd like a little more stability for the long run. And no, FORD and GM are never being considered! WAY too much personal, exceptioanlly bad experience in quality with both!

We followed Rivian since seeing the prototype at the NY Intl. Auto Show several years back. The longer-term reviews have been quite good and the company seems solid to keep the customer happy (at least for the moment). We want to start transitioning to EV's THIS YEAR, not in 2025,6,30, etc. while we still have some decent equity in the vehicles we own. Loved the R1T that we test drove - looking forward to getting one, hopefully, within a couple more weeks.

 

[DaveA]

Nah, he only made one truck.
For Gumby.

Shoulda sold the Alaska design to someone.

 

[NY_Rob]

Shoulda sold the Alaska design to someone.

Agreed, I put a deposit down on one (and got my refund before the Fisker meltdown started).

The design was awesome, too bad it will never materialize as HF envisioned it.

 

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