Biggest downgrade for Gen2 R1?

[jjswan33]

I agree about the large pack on both or your points.

The other biggest downgrade in my opinion is the pricing of the premium line. Even after revised pricing the outgoing QM was in the $90k range equipped with common options, a comparable TM trim is $105-110k. Not saying it's a bad value, but its a lot pricier. Lets hope those profits in Q4 help the share price.

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[Count Orlok]

Don't forget the QM comes with the cool Gary with hair all blowing back as biggest reason to go TM up to QM...

TBH, these will be in such high demand that I'm convinced a secondary market of knock-offs will emerge and everyone will be able to badge their Rivians with it. Kind of like the dorky neighbor with who puts SS badges on his non-SS Chevelle.

 

[jjswan33]

I think this is the biggest reason to get a tri or quad motor, the exclusive paint color.

Even more so the new interior trim configuration options. And damnit I don't want silver calipers... just awful

 

[R1Tom]

TBH, these will be in such high demand that I'm convinced a secondary market of knock-offs will emerge and everyone will be able to badge their Rivians with it. Kind of like the dorky neighbor with who puts SS badges on his non-SS Chevelle.

I see some of those badge upgrades in my area too. See a bunch of Porsche EV with Turbo badges all the time......oh wait.....my bad....Porsche actually does that dorky themselves....

 

[DuoRivian]

I suspect this decision is simply based on supply chain issues. They will convert to NACS as soon as they can have sufficient supply for their production requirements.

NACS will come in 2025 for the 2026 model year. They have always said 2025 and this will be a little before R2 starts up production. That will give the R1 line the next bump in second half of 2025, with Quad providing a bump in Q1 2025. They need to keep the publicity going to get through to R2 production.

 

[kozak79]

Price

 

[André]

NACS will come in 2025 for the 2026 model year. They have always said 2025 and this will be a little before R2 starts up production. That will give the R1 line the next bump in second half of 2025, with Quad providing a bump in Q1 2025. They need to keep the publicity going to get through to R2 production.

Kyle from Out of Spec mentioned next January or even December 2024 in his latest video after his meetings with management... see at 36:00.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I suspect this decision is simply based on supply chain issues. They will convert to NACS as soon as they can have sufficient supply for their production requirements.

It's because of three little letters here: (WIP)

https://www.sae.org/standards/content/j3400/

 

[Dark-Fx]

Even more so the new interior trim configuration options. And damnit I don't want silver calipers... just awful

It's probably just paint right? Don't trade your R1T in, swap brake calipers between vehicles, then sell your old quad to someone that doesn't know better.

 

[racekarl]

Door handles and the impending car functions as a service.

What's the downgrade to the door handles? I assumed that the little button would be an addition to the proximity auto-presenting as opposed to replacing it, is that incorrect, or is there some other change, too?

Although I think even if it does replace the auto-presenting it's still a lateral move at worst. The proximity unlock behavior at home is frustrating no matter which option you choose.

 

[Rividiculous]

One thing that I noticed (i may be wrong though).
The 22" aero option which is supposed to be optimized for range doesn't look to add any extra range compared to the other sport 22"

I've been wondering about that. There's some language about the range being estimated. Maybe they will later disclose a bigger difference. (Or it will be otherwise confirmed.)

If the Max pack has 410 miles of range with the sport wheels, that implies quite a boost to range--30 miles!--since Gen 1 R1S Max with sport wheels has a 380 mile range and Gen 2 R1S Max with sports shows 410 miles. But maybe the sport wheels are actually only 390 or so and the 410 is only the Aero Range Wheels.

 

[djsider2]

What's the downgrade to the door handles? I assumed that the little button would be an addition to the proximity auto-presenting as opposed to replacing it, is that incorrect, or is there some other change, too?

Although I think even if it does replace the auto-presenting it's still a lateral move at worst. The proximity unlock behavior at home is frustrating no matter which option you choose.

The exterior door handles is an upgrade. The lack of door handles in the interior are the downgrade

 

[mini2nut]

Not redesigning the fugly front end during the refresh was a miss.

 

[racekarl]

The exterior door handles is an upgrade. The lack of door handles in the interior are the downgrade

Oh I didn't realize they changed those, thanks for the heads up.

 

[CodeZephyr]

Oh I didn't realize they changed those, thanks for the heads up.

There appears to still be a manual door release, in the same place as the current interior door release handles.

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