Current Tesla Owners: Moving to Rivian

[SantaFeSpence]

I've got a 2020 M3 LR AWD and it is a great little car - emphasis on "little." I'm a tall guy and getting on in years, so my days of contorting myself to get into a low-slung vehicle are coming to an end. Hence, as I need a larger vehicle I have both a Tesla Model X and an RiT on order. For me, range and ease of charging are very important. Tesla has the best of both (except perhaps for the Lucid Air).
For long road trips I'll take the Tesla, and for trips to the bush and general banging around it'll be the R1T. Don't tell my wife how much these 2 beauties will cost! (but I reckon I'll get around $50K or so for the Model 3, so that'll take some of the sting out).

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[shamoo]

I have a Model S Long Range on order with a tentative delivery date of May 2022. Late 2021 I put in an order for a Rivian R1S.

I'm 90% set on canceling the Tesla order when it comes time. With tax implications, it is not going to be worth it to resell, although I'm not sure since my order was placed before the $5K price hike. Fortunately it was only a $100 deposit.

I like cars and I'm an enthusiast. I was honest with myself and I didn't have a good reason for a Tesla. I just wanted because it was nice and fast. It doesn't replace any of my current vehicles.

The Rivian R1S is a great all around daily driver AND it is fun because it is quick. I can get rid of my fun BMW X5M which gets an average of 9.8mpg lols. I'm about $80-90/week in gas. The Rivian can fill the X5M's spot and it can also go off-road.

I will keep my fun car and my daily/beater is a 2015 Accord which will be replaced by a company car (Hyundai).

I think the Rivian will be a great fit. I'm just concerned about the delivery timeline of the R1S. I hate waiting haha.

 

[9527]

I currently have a Model 3 and love it but I am in the market for a new SUV. I will keep the Model 3 and I currently have a preorder for a R1S. I was initially thinking about a Model Y but the 7 seat option is not really practical and the prices increased about $10k in less than a year and the wait time is in line with my R1S so I didn’t go with the Y. In truth I would prefer a Model X seven seater if it wasn’t so corky with those crazy doors. I realize they have their uses but the added costs and the constant issues people have with the doors make it less appealing. I would still consider it over the R1S if the price was more reasonable but at $110,000 and a 12 month wait, it is way too high a price.

Other than the Model X and the R1S, there are no other true 7 seater electric SUVs coming to market anytime soon. I would not go ICE to get a new 7 seater SUV; once you go electric, it is hard to go back in time to doing oil changes, pumping gas, and using your break pedal. The biggest concern I have with the R1S, and the main reason I would go with a Model X over the R1S if I could, is the inefficiency of the R1S. If you compare the two models, it isn’t even close; the R1S gets a combined MPGe of 69 and the X gets 102; that is 48% more efficient for the X. I understand you need more power for the 4 motors in the R1S and one is for off-roading while the other is for mall parking lots but if the name of the game is to be more climate change conscious, then the R1S is pretty bad when compared to the Model X. It became apparent when I was planning my charging times with my Model 3 and my R1S and realized that the battery pack in the R1S is so large that I would need to upgrade the electric service in my house from 100 amps to 200 amps in order to run the R1S, Model 3, and the A/C unit all at the same time without risking blowing up my electric box. And it would still take over 12 hours to charge the R1S fully overnight using their higher level charger. If I tried charging the R1S with the same plug I use for my model 3, it would charge it at 15 miles per hour and it would take 20 hours to fully charge the battery. It takes my model 3 about 5 hours, max (much smaller battery). Since the truck is so inefficient, it needs a bigger battery and it takes much longer to charge. That’s the challenge with the R1S for me. But I digress. Still love the R1S but it’s battery size will be a challenge to deal with.

I’m concerning about the same thing. We currently have a 2018 Model 3 LR and a 2021 Model Y LR. Was planning to sell the 3 and get a R1S. I’m not worried about delay because the 3 still has a lot of life left at 53k miles.

The 3 is very efficient. The Y is less so. The fact that the R1s are so inefficient got me thinking if we really want to get it. There’re no real reasons for us to get a R1S besides the fact that I like it being a full size SUV EV. Our 3 and Y are more than enough for our needs.

We want to take the R1S on road trips but the EA network is still nowhere as convenient as the Supercharger network. And who know how long it will take Rivian to build the RAN. Also the R1’s charging curve still leaves something to be desired compared to Tesla or the Ioniq5 or the EV6.

Our delivery is still more than one year away so we’ll have plenty of time to see how the world changes. (Competitors, charging network, new federal or state incentives, etc)

 

[jennq]

I have a 2015 Model S P90D with free lifetime supercharging and panoramic sunroof that actually opens! I still absolutely love it. However, I also am not happy with where Tesla is going. I have always loved their service, especially the Rangers. I am in need of a truck and am very happy to not have to buy a Cybertruck to go full electric. Hope to have my R1T by the end of the year or early next. I also hope that Rivian mirrors the Ranger service model.

 

[Chris S]

I have no near-term plans to sell my '18 Model 3 Performance...as of now our Rivian LE (model TBD) will replace our Wrangler Rubicon.

 

[BoulderRiv]

Just curious to know how many out there are current or former Tesla owners who are considering a Rivian vehicle. I have a 2013 Tesla Model S. I've been largely pleased with it over the past 9 years, but after nearly a decade of driving this around in the Chicago climate, it's starting to show its age. I will probably be in the market some time in the next 2-3 years. The car has served me well, but I am not happy with the current direction of Tesla (and I can't stand the yoke), the continued issues with build quality, and the service is getting harder to tolerate.

I've been a closet pickup fan for most of my life, but I have no real need for a pickup (what person who drives into the city and works at a hospital needs a pickup?). But, that's not the point - I like the pickup.

In searching for a future vehicle, the things that will probably matter the most to me are service and the charging network. Interestingly, I had neither of them when I started in 2013. But, they are factors upon which I've come to depend and will factor heavily in my decision.

What are you Tesla owners concerned about or elated about? Thoughts from current Rivian owners (previous Tesla owners or not)???

Just curious to know how many out there are current or former Tesla owners who are considering a Rivian vehicle. I have a 2013 Tesla Model S. I've been largely pleased with it over the past 9 years, but after nearly a decade of driving this around in the Chicago climate, it's starting to show its age. I will probably be in the market some time in the next 2-3 years. The car has served me well, but I am not happy with the current direction of Tesla (and I can't stand the yoke), the continued issues with build quality, and the service is getting harder to tolerate.

I've been a closet pickup fan for most of my life, but I have no real need for a pickup (what person who drives into the city and works at a hospital needs a pickup?). But, that's not the point - I like the pickup.

In searching for a future vehicle, the things that will probably matter the most to me are service and the charging network. Interestingly, I had neither of them when I started in 2013. But, they are factors upon which I've come to depend and will factor heavily in my decision.

What are you Tesla owners concerned about or elated about? Thoughts from current Rivian owners (previous Tesla owners or not)???

I too had a 2013 Model S 60 and have loved it dearly for all these years. Moved to Colorado and while I'd been super careful, we live on a dirt road and it simply took a beating. Also being 2 wheel drive with the big wheels and summer tires made driving in the weather difficult. Truly believe in EV's and the Rivian is the perfect vehicle for me. It was a no brainer. I've had my R1T reservation since March of 2020 and according to the email from Rivian at Christmas, I can expect delivery April/May. Can't wait!!!

 

[Texasrivian]

We currently own a 2022 Audi S3 (wife’s car) and 2019 Tesla Model 3. I would prefer to trade in my wife’s S3 when we take delivery of the R1S to move to a full electric household, but we just got it back in October 2021. Most likely we will trade in the Model 3, and then trade the S3 when there is a new exciting electric model.

 

[SRTConvert]

I have a 2021 Model S Long Range. Plan to keep it. R1T on order, waiting for Max Pack, so Rivian says first half of 2023 (June 2019 reservation). My current plan is to replace my Lincoln Navigator with the R1T. That depends on continued positive reviews of the R1T, Rivian's support and service build out and the continued expansion of various charging networks.

A few observations.

- R1T Efficiency - Comparing it to a Tesla is Apples to Oranges, as noted above. For sedan / minivan type driving, a Tesla will always come out on top. Comparing it to an ICE vehicle, then the 60+ eMPG is very attractive versus a similar size pickup or SUV. To come even close to the performance of the Rivian you'd have to look at a Porsche, Raptor, TRX or Escalade V.

- Yoke - Before taking delivery of the Model S, I read all the comments on the Yoke. While on the fence before taking delivery, I've had the Model S for 3 months have become very pleased with the Yoke. Yes, there is a learning curve, but once you get through it, you'll find it is a great feature (visibility, hand position for 95%+ of your time behind the wheel). One reason I might lean to a Cybertruck eventually.

 

[rhumbliner]

2019 Model S 75D owner here and have my reservation in for the R1T with MaxPack. Hoping to replace my RAM 1500 which tows my Airstream which is why the MaxPack is a must. Still not certain about towing long distances and having to depend upon the EA network which is getting better, but still a long way away from the reliability of the SuperCharger network. For this reason, my first choice is the Cyber Truck but that may be too far out to wait. But since the MaxPack pushes me back to 2023 I’ve plenty of time to sit back and watch what develops.

 

[jfornelli]

2019 Model S 75D owner here and have my reservation in for the R1T with MaxPack. Hoping to replace my RAM 1500 which tows my Airstream which is why the MaxPack is a must. Still not certain about towing long distances and having to depend upon the EA network which is getting better, but still a long way away from the reliability of the SuperCharger network. For this reason, my first choice is the Cyber Truck but that may be too far out to wait. But since the MaxPack pushes me back to 2023 I’ve plenty of time to sit back and watch what develops.

While my wife has a Model Y, I also have a RAM 1500 (2019) with a Cybertruck reserved. I'm leaning more towards the R1S or *maybe* the R1T at this point. But, I'm keeping my reservation for the CT and I put in a reservation for the R1S a couple weeks ago. I like the smaller size of the R1S, as well as the ability to just sleep in the back, rather than in the bed of a truck. My only real reason for wanting a truck anymore is so I can haul my kayak around for fishing.

 

[rkalbiar]

I have had a few PHEVs and now two Tesla Model 3's. I still love Elon and Tesla. If it was not for them, this EV revolution would not be happening. For me, I am over the Tesla 'minimalist' and build quality. I want something more upscale and solid.

 

[mini2nut]

I decided to hedge my bets by leaving deposits on a Lightning, R1T and a Cybertruck. The most promising delivery at this point is the Ford Lightning. I received the configuration e-mail early this month and selected the standard AWD $52k XLT trim with the basic 230 mile battery pack.

The latest news is that the Pro and XLT trim levels are completely sold out for 2022. A price hike for 2023 models is virtually guaranteed. Ford clams a 24 week wait delivery after production starts up next month.

I am up in the air on which BEV pickup truck I will eventually choose. They each have their pro’s and con’s. I plan on keeping the vehicle for 10-years so a wise decision is critical.

 

[OverZealous]

The latest news is that the Pro and XLT trim levels are completely sold out for 2022. A price hike for 2023 models is virtually guaranteed. Ford clams a 24 week wait delivery after production starts up next month.

Wow. No matter how you slice it, this is amazing news for EVs and EV trucks in particular. Every model—seemingly no matter the price—is just selling out immediately for years in advance.

 

[icmurf]

I have an early pre-order for an R1T launch edition. My current car is a 2020 Model 3 Long Range AWD. My plan had been to trade the M3 for the R1T. I'm rethinking that now since we traded our Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV for the VW ID.4. We are now 100% electric and will remain 100% electric. My decision to keep the Tesla is based on my experience with the non-Tesla public charging network. I can literally go ANYWHERE in the M3 based on both the efficiency and the far superior Supercharger network -- more locations, more chargers per location, higher power, faster charging. Simply trying to locate a DC fast charger using the the ID.4 nav or PlugShare is a challenge -- combine that with the sparse availability and I *NEED* to keep the Tesla to keep my sanity. On top of that, the promised Rivian Adventure Network seems to be nothing but a twinkle in R.J.'s eye at this point. I've seen no evidence that they are actually building it out on the 2023 promised timeline.

 

[tnawara]

Just curious to know how many out there are current or former Tesla owners who are considering a Rivian vehicle. I have a 2013 Tesla Model S. I've been largely pleased with it over the past 9 years, but after nearly a decade of driving this around in the Chicago climate, it's starting to show its age. I will probably be in the market some time in the next 2-3 years. The car has served me well, but I am not happy with the current direction of Tesla (and I can't stand the yoke), the continued issues with build quality, and the service is getting harder to tolerate.

I've been a closet pickup fan for most of my life, but I have no real need for a pickup (what person who drives into the city and works at a hospital needs a pickup?). But, that's not the point - I like the pickup.

In searching for a future vehicle, the things that will probably matter the most to me are service and the charging network. Interestingly, I had neither of them when I started in 2013. But, they are factors upon which I've come to depend and will factor heavily in my decision.

What are you Tesla owners concerned about or elated about? Thoughts from current Rivian owners (previous Tesla owners or not)???

I was also a Chicago area 2013 Model S owner (although I traded it in for a 2018 M3P and that in for a 2022 MYP in December). I’m planning to keep the MYP* for my wife and get the R1S for myself.

I’m most concerned about having to deal with non-Tesla superchargers (after hearing some of the EA horror stories and seeing very little from Rivian on their charging network buildout). But my daily driving needs don’t really require HC charging, so this isn’t a show-stopper.

I’m also somewhat concerned with proximity to Rivian service: I haven’t seen a lot of progress on the downtown Chicago service center, and we’ve heard very little (zero?) about progress on the Rivian mobile service team.


* Neither of us is pleased with the ride quality on the MYP, so we’re casually looking for a replacement

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