Appreciate the thoughts. Probably worth it just for prolonging the life of the ATs for the rest of the seasons, and the basic steel rims look like a decent deal.Oh, the famous I-70, so many memories...
I started putting snow tires on whatever car I designate for ski trips after buying my first car with summer tires (an Audi with AWD). If you have ever driven with summer tires on snow, you'll know what I mean ? So, I was basically forced to switch to snow tires after sliding off the road at the first snow storm.
Generally speaking, what you get with the snow tires is a shorter stopping distance on snow and ice. Getting going (even uphill) and turning haven't been an issue with ATs. With OE ATs, there is also the issue of cost since the OE ATs cost double what some of the snow tires cost. I paid $211 ea of for my Hankook snow tires.
In terms of AT traction experience, my only issue last year was hitting an icy patch on one of Vail's outer roads and I managed to control the truck.
In terms of comparison to other trucks, I used to have a 1-ton Ram for years with ATs and 400 lbs of sand bags in the bed. I went with the sand bags after hitting black ice on I-70 at the bottom of a hill going 70 mph. The road was totally dry and the black ice was the result of melting water that had refrozen into black ice at the bottom of the hill. I did 2x 360 spins and got lucky not hitting anything and rolling over. The truck was in 2WD since the road was totally dry. But, 2x360s was scary enough that I used my SUV with AWD for all subsequent ski trips. I am sure snow tires would have helped some with regaining traction in that situation.
So, yes speed is a factor and I don't think you need sand bags for the Rivian since the battery pack is low down and the weight is pretty much distributed unlike ICE trucks, but snow tires are cheaper to run and add a level of safety for stopping distances and just overall driving in winter conditions.
Snow tires are basically additional insurance and my guestimate is that I at least break even running the cheaper tires during winter since it would double the life of the OE ATs.
Well you guys don’t really need winter tires unless you’re schlepping into high elevation all the time. Does WA even salt? That being said I’ve driven bald tires on a lot of insane conditions and I can say that new AS tires with sipes are all most people need. The last thing you need in winter is more confidence at speed in traffic and slippery conditions. I once saved it and avoided rear ending someone stopping on a descent only to get hit by the overconfident TRD Pro Tundra guy that I had been trying hard to keep my distance from. Winter tires don’t give you good judgment and I’ve seen a lot of winter ?I feel like we've talked about this before... But even in Puget Sound's mild weather? I've avoided winter tires because it isn't often constantly below 40s.
275/60/r20What size?
20" wheels are usually cheaper and lighter. 20" tires tend to be more efficient than 22".Looking at Nokian R5's for the winter. I will need to get wheels to go with it. Is there any reason to go with 20" over 22"? I know for snow, narrower is better, but both would be 275 width. Any other reason to go with 20", other than likely lower cost?
And more sidewall on the 20s, meaning softer ride.Looking at Nokian R5's for the winter. I will need to get wheels to go with it. Is there any reason to go with 20" over 22"? I know for snow, narrower is better, but both would be 275 width. Any other reason to go with 20", other than likely lower cost?
Yep, that was my experience in September. I could basically only get the Hankooks or the General Grabber Arctics. I went with the Hankooks due to better noise profile (probably because of the newer thread pattern), slightly better thread depth, and lower price.
I jumped the gun a bit since I don't need the snow tires until November, but I still had to wait for the tires to be shipped from UT to CO.