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Have you researched best price? That's how I'm going as well.
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I have the Nokain Hakkapeliitta LT3 275/65R20 on my 2022 R1T in winter and they have been nothing short of excellent.
 

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Oh, the famous I-70, so many memories...

I started putting snow tires on whatever car I designate for ski trips after buying my first car with summer tires (an Audi with AWD). If you have ever driven with summer tires on snow, you'll know what I mean ? So, I was basically forced to switch to snow tires after sliding off the road at the first snow storm.

Generally speaking, what you get with the snow tires is a shorter stopping distance on snow and ice. Getting going (even uphill) and turning haven't been an issue with ATs. With OE ATs, there is also the issue of cost since the OE ATs cost double what some of the snow tires cost. I paid $211 ea of for my Hankook snow tires.

In terms of AT traction experience, my only issue last year was hitting an icy patch on one of Vail's outer roads and I managed to control the truck.

In terms of comparison to other trucks, I used to have a 1-ton Ram for years with ATs and 400 lbs of sand bags in the bed. I went with the sand bags after hitting black ice on I-70 at the bottom of a hill going 70 mph. The road was totally dry and the black ice was the result of melting water that had refrozen into black ice at the bottom of the hill. I did 2x 360 spins and got lucky not hitting anything and rolling over. The truck was in 2WD since the road was totally dry. But, 2x360s was scary enough that I used my SUV with AWD for all subsequent ski trips. I am sure snow tires would have helped some with regaining traction in that situation.

So, yes speed is a factor and I don't think you need sand bags for the Rivian since the battery pack is low down and the weight is pretty much distributed unlike ICE trucks, but snow tires are cheaper to run and add a level of safety for stopping distances and just overall driving in winter conditions.

Snow tires are basically additional insurance and my guestimate is that I at least break even running the cheaper tires during winter since it would double the life of the OE ATs.
Appreciate the thoughts. Probably worth it just for prolonging the life of the ATs for the rest of the seasons, and the basic steel rims look like a decent deal.
 

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I feel like we've talked about this before... But even in Puget Sound's mild weather? I've avoided winter tires because it isn't often constantly below 40s.
Well you guys don’t really need winter tires unless you’re schlepping into high elevation all the time. Does WA even salt? That being said I’ve driven bald tires on a lot of insane conditions and I can say that new AS tires with sipes are all most people need. The last thing you need in winter is more confidence at speed in traffic and slippery conditions. I once saved it and avoided rear ending someone stopping on a descent only to get hit by the overconfident TRD Pro Tundra guy that I had been trying hard to keep my distance from. Winter tires don’t give you good judgment and I’ve seen a lot of winter ?⛷ and a lot of bad judgment ☠ in winter.
 

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Walmart has the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 SUV Winter 275/60R20 for $317. Combine with 3% cash back on retailmenot gets it down to $307. Think I'll pull the trigger.

I decided to stick with just 4 tires rather than doing the spare as well. Any issues with using a 275/65R20 on one wheel in an emergency? If so, guess would just use roadside service like a car with no spare.

BTW, called DT and they said the tires are no longer made. Huh? Told them they’re on Tirerack and they said buy them there then and they’ll install them. $20 more than Walmart and didn’t feel like going through the price matching thing.
 

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Looking at Nokian R5's for the winter. I will need to get wheels to go with it. Is there any reason to go with 20" over 22"? I know for snow, narrower is better, but both would be 275 width. Any other reason to go with 20", other than likely lower cost?
 

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Looking at Nokian R5's for the winter. I will need to get wheels to go with it. Is there any reason to go with 20" over 22"? I know for snow, narrower is better, but both would be 275 width. Any other reason to go with 20", other than likely lower cost?
20" wheels are usually cheaper and lighter. 20" tires tend to be more efficient than 22".
 

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Looking at Nokian R5's for the winter. I will need to get wheels to go with it. Is there any reason to go with 20" over 22"? I know for snow, narrower is better, but both would be 275 width. Any other reason to go with 20", other than likely lower cost?
And more sidewall on the 20s, meaning softer ride.
 

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Has anyone run the Nokian R5 and LT3 that could provide a comparison?
 

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Yep, that was my experience in September. I could basically only get the Hankooks or the General Grabber Arctics. I went with the Hankooks due to better noise profile (probably because of the newer thread pattern), slightly better thread depth, and lower price.

I jumped the gun a bit since I don't need the snow tires until November, but I still had to wait for the tires to be shipped from UT to CO.

It appears we have much in common RayMan. Also.


Try the Nitto Ridge Grapplers or the New Terra. The new Terra's are 9 lbs lighter per tire than an equivalent BFG KO3/KO2. I can say having used the Nitto for years they are amazing tires. Much superior to BFG.


  1. I have RIVIAN R1S
  2. 2016 LR4 (selling because of R1S)
  3. 1969 Mustang Mach 1
  4. 2022 Mustang Mach E (Selling as well because of R1S)
  5. In Colorado
 

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I have 21” OEM - would it be fine to go to Tahoe and back? No off roading or trails… just pure road…

Does anyone you suggestions for snow cables?

Has any one tried Michelin defender LTX M/S2 on snow?

I use defender series on Audi Q5 and they work great.
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