I'm not surprised in the least bit. Its going to be a while before we can charge any vehicle at a super charger.
Damn! All you software engineers. How difficult would it be for manufacturers to program plug and charge into existing vehicles, opening the use of an adaptor?
Tesla can do that now, but they aren't willing to install a reader and a screen for people who don't want to use the Tesla app.
Oh so it's all on Tesla? My thought is if they want to open the Tesla charging network, as suggested by the filing of the NACS, then they should be open to a third party adaptor. The primary missing ingredient after an adaptor is made is plug and charge. This would require Rivian, Ford, Chevy, VW, etc to allow the user to add a credit/debit card in the vehicle interface to pay when pllugged in.
I believe in Europe the interface to start CCS charging at a supercharger is the Tesla app. But I could be wrong.
That is correct, the Tesla app is how the charger would communicate with the non-Tesla vehicle. This isn't all that difficult really, a Tesla sold adaptor and the app and it would work. It would not be as seamless as a Tesla vehicle, but that's fine for both the Tesla owner and the non-Tesla owner. Tesla owners will be happy to display how easy it is to use a Tesla and us Rivian owners will just be happy to have a reliable charger.
The entire point is to standardize the charging network on a national scale as much as possible. If Tesla just gets to ignore the “standard” then it’s just a handout to Tesla. If Tesla doesn’t want to be a part of that they don’t have to be.
That’s all very nice and fine but the de facto standard is in fact, the Tesla charging plug. Something like 80% of Evies sold in the United States are Tesla. Ignoring Tesla is kind of ridiculous in my humble opinion. Other opinions may differ.
Just because Tesla uses it does not make it a standard. It just makes it Tesla’s choice of plug. Doesn’t mean it’s the better plug or worse plug, it just means it’s Tesla’s plug. The idea here isn’t to force every manufacturer to be Tesla and make life as easy as possible for them. Again, it’s 100% up to them if they want to participate in this effort.
FWIW, the Tesla plug is better, much easier to use. Had Tesla been able to convince the world to go that direction, it would be a little bit easier for all of us every time we charge. Not to mention we’d only have to wait for the software right now to use Superchargers instead of hardware and software.
Tesla’s perspective is completely irrelevant to the question of what requirements should exist for how the government spends taxpayer’s money. The requirements for a screen which shows the price and for a CC reader are completely reasonable and appropriate standards. Public funds should be spent on chargers that are accessible by as many people as possible. Many people don’t have smart phones or don’t want 10 apps for things like charging networks. There must be a way for them to charge their cars. The public needs to spend its money making sure they can.
From a usability standpoint, the Tesla plug is better because it's much easier to handle. But this isn't something you're keeping in your pocket, it's something you handle for 7 seconds. Being smaller and lighter alone aren't reasons to make it a superior connector. With how unstable Musk is would you really expect other manufacturers to implement Tesla's "standard"? So at the drop of a hat Musk could say "F you guys, I'm revoking access and you can't use it anymore" halfway through a model year?
