Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 R22 115H installed

[gsqrd]

On my R1S today/ Ordered online at Americas Tire yesterday. Was straightforward except for my EV Sportline sliders . They had me show them lift points. My JackPucks helped a lot as their plastic pucks had no magnets. Smooth and quiet running is my first reaction.

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[mudito]

On my R1S today/ Ordered online at Americas Tire yesterday. Was straightforward except for my EV Sportline sliders . They had me show them lift points. My JackPucks helped a lot as their plastic pucks had no magnets. Smooth and quiet running is my first reaction.

I'm so tempted to go Michelins!! I think my Pirelli's are louder than they should and after rotation I can see them wearing off (10.000 miles!).

But, for a fraction of the price I might get an extra Pirelli and use my spare and get a lot of miles out of my current set... ?

 

[wicked2112]

They are AMAZING!!!! ? ? ? ? ?

 

[ironpig]

Still pretty happy with my Michelins. The slightly diminished range is not really a big deal day to day. The ride quality is totally worth it.

 

[HaveBlue]

Pics or it didn't happen

 

[CANCERDOC]

Glad they were ok with 115H tires.

 

[mudito]

Still pretty happy with my Michelins. The slightly diminished range is not really a big deal day to day. The ride quality is totally worth it.

How much range loss are we talking about?

 

[kanundrum]

My biggest concern would be grip

 

[mudito]

My biggest concern would be grip

Michelin normally is better in that subject than Pirelli's. Though the treadwear rating hits to a harder tire for the French's, I would still think they behave pretty decent on the dry grip domain

 

[ironpig]

How much range loss are we talking about?

not too much. Maybe .1-.2 ? That’s been my experience and there seems to be a few others in the various Michelin threads reporting similar.

I was surprised that it didn’t improve going from the Pirelli ATs to these all seasons but i guess it’s an issue of weight and rolling resistance.

 

[ironpig]

My biggest concern would be grip

Seems like a justified concern. someone in one of the Michelin threads mentioned poor grip in rain. Living in SoCal I haven’t been able to test these in the wet yet, but my Pirellis didn’t have much grip last year when we had our heaviest rainfall year in a while.

I think if I was going to see snow or more rain I’d stick with one of the AT options. Or get a 2nd set of wheels with maybe the Toyos. But for this climate, I’m loving the smooth ride of the Michelins.

 

[Indy avocado]

How much range loss are we talking about?

I changed wheels and tires from 21" to aftermarket 20" to fit the defenders. I initially saw a ~10% reduction in range, but after a few thousand miles, it seems like they match or exceed the OEM tires.

My biggest concern would be grip

Seems like a justified concern. someone in one of the Michelin threads mentioned poor grip in rain.

There's definitely less grip in the dry. In the wet I don't think I've noticed any significant reduction. They are much more communicative and progressive when the slip, however. Ride quality is *mostly* improved, though steering feel took a hit.

I've got about 12k miles on mine, I'm down from 11/32 to 10/32. I was to the wear bars (3-4/32) on my OEM Pirellis in 17k miles.

Overall, for $100 cheaper per tire and will last 2-4x as long... I'm super happy with the change.

 

[rodhx]

Seems like a justified concern. someone in one of the Michelin threads mentioned poor grip in rain.

That sounds like you may be referencing my comment but note I've got the LTX Platinum, not the LTX M/S2 the OP has just installed. Based on past ownership experience with M/S line I expect it to be better than the Platinum.

For clarity...I'm not saying the Platinums are dangerous or anything approaching that. They do give up some wet weather handling traction that doesn't inspire confidence for me. Definitely not a tire I would try to hustle along back roads in a significant downpour. "Normal" driving is fine.

 

[kong]

On my R1S today/ Ordered online at Americas Tire yesterday. Was straightforward except for my EV Sportline sliders . They had me show them lift points. My JackPucks helped a lot as their plastic pucks had no magnets. Smooth and quiet running is my first reaction.

Good choice. A few months back, I upgraded from OEM 21s with Pirellis to aftermarket 22s with the Michelin MS2 115H, and the difference in ride quality is definitely noticeable. I’ve also noticed a 7-8% increase in range, with no issues in wet or dry traction so far.

 

[JonW716]

Good choice. A few months back, I upgraded from OEM 21s with Pirellis to aftermarket 22s with the Michelin MS2 115H, and the difference in ride quality is definitely noticeable. I’ve also noticed a 7-8% increase in range, with no issues in wet or dry traction so far.

Very interesting that many people report a range loss and your reporting a gain. Obviously location and driving style come into play, these will be my next tires. May I ask what 22" rims you went to please and if you know how much they weigh? I am wondering if the rims you went to are lighter and that is the reason for the range increase, currently running 22" Rivian sport dark rims.

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