Other EVs ruin my trips

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[netantyl]

Thread title should have said "EV charging infrastructure ruins my trips".

The other people out there are just trying to get home, same as you. Nobody is trying to inconvenience you personally on purpose.

It's hard enough convincing most people to make the switch to EVs. Then after they do so, we berate them for not utilizing the scarce charging resources optimally? Please don't.

We need to build more. If we had adequate infrastructure, none of this would matter. Blame your elected officials, not other drivers. We are in a climate emergency and our government still subsidizing oil instead of fixing this.

 

[HaveBlue]

You need an adapter.

Seems like 350s really benefit those 800v cars. For the rest of us, Tesla is fine haha.

 

[Ottoman]

On a recent road trip, there was another Rivian owner who plugged into an EA charger and left the S unattended, their car finished charging and they took another 20 mins to come back to their vehicle..

Meanwhile there was a line of cars piling up and standing around while temps were in the 90's.

finally one person got fed up with waiting and unplugged the Rivian and plugged into their car.

When the couple came back they acted all pissy and offended..

 

[Wing]

You really are spoiled to be honest.

In Canada your choice is for the most part 25/50 or 100. The odd 150 / 180 and very very rare 350.

I've had to drive out of the way for a 150 because everything on my route is a 50. Oh and along the busiest highway in the world and they put 2 chargers at each stop, many miles apart lol.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

OP, get yourself a A2Z or Lectron adapter for Tesla Supercharger. Then laugh at all the peasants waiting at EA/EVgo.

 

[Plummer43]

Lincoln Nebraska EA (only 3 of 4 stalls working). Pull up, 2 ID4s and one KIA. One ID4 lives in Lincoln and was taking advantage of his free charging. 2nd ID4, who also lives in Lincoln, was DCFC because his home charger wasn't installed yet.

Ogallala Nebraska EA (Only 2 of 4 stalls working). ID4 charged to 97%... just happened to disconnect once their 30min free charging session ended.

Whatcha gonna do.

 

[ads75]

A Rivian charging on a 150kw or 350kw station isn't that much time difference, as mentioned, due to the thermal throttling. But I have seen an older Ioniq (before the Ioniq 5) charging past 90% on a 350kw stall, with 2 150kw stalls empty. I have no idea if he tried one of those first and it didn't work. But I pulled in around 40%, and left at 80%, and he was still there, charging, past 90%. No line at the time so his time didn't bother anyone. He seemed confused as to why I arrived after he did, and left before he did, I have no idea if he knew anything about charging curves.

I have taken my Rivian on a couple road trips. I now take my 2 door Wrangler because of my experience at charging stations. I don't mind that it takes 30-45 minutes to charge. I do mind that there are frequently lines to charge, which are sometimes organized, sometimes not, and sometimes aggressive people to deal with. A Tesla adapter may fix it, but then someone on a Tesla forum will complain about a Rivian taking 2 charging spots.

 

[electric-in-the-desert]

OP, get yourself a A2Z or Lectron adapter for Tesla Supercharger. Then laugh at all the peasants waiting at EA/EVgo.

+1 on A2Z. However I would NOT recommend lectron. There are documented instances of the latch mechanism malfunctioning causing it to either remain stuck to the Tesla cord OR coming loose during charging.

 

[chex38]

In Ontario you can thank your Conservative Premier Dougie Fresh for that one! His government is either agnostic to or outright anti-EV, I think.

-- Chex waving from very PRO-EV British-Columbia. ;P

You really are spoiled to be honest.

In Canada your choice is for the most part 25/50 or 100. The odd 150 / 180 and very very rare 350.

 

[Joules Burn]

I have taken multiple road trips in over a half dozen states with my Kia EV6 GT-L that has an 800 volt charging structure - mainly with EA DC chargers. I’ve learned that there is little difference in my time with the 150 or 350kW chargers.

The 150’s stay in the one hundreds long enough. The 350’s have hit 240kW on occasion but dropped to below 150 soon after - they usually hit 150 and then drop 20 or 30 after that.
I’ve used two 350 chargers that actually held above 200kW.

My charging curves between the Rivian and Kia are not much different. I’m anxious to test the Tesla difference.

(A Bolt on a 350 should at least be a misdemeanor.)

 

[Treebeard]

I’ve

Small rant but I'm curious if I just have bad luck. Right now, any trips I take long distance, I am at the mercy of EA DCFC. The 2 stations I've been using only have 4 stalls available. Everytime I arrive, there is ALWAYS a Chevy bolt, a Mach E, or ID4 charging at the 350kw fast charger, leaving me to use the 150kw. I haven't really had issues with the chargers not working, but the stations I use charge by the min at speeds above 90kw... So I'm paying the same price per min at a 150kw station when I could be getting 220kw out of the faster charger. Whatever it just means my charging sessions are 10 mins longer (normally I'm charging from 20% to 80%)
My real issue is this... Most of the vehicles that use the fast charger cannot utilize the speeds above 150kw anyways, yet that is the first stall they pull into. Also, I have been noticing at BUSY stations, people are rolling in with like a already decently high SOC, and topping off past 90%. Last week I saw a Hyundai ionic 6 pull in with 30% battery, and sat there for an hour charging to 96%. Then right when he left, a Ford lightning pulled in with 63% SOC and charged to 78%... Meantime, there is a legit line of 4 cars waiting to use the 3 EA stations available (because naturally one was broken). I had to wait 45 mins to use a station, then it took me 33 mins to get to my 75% soc to make it back home.

I feel like some people are just uneducated about how they should approach fast charging, how the charging curves work and what stations should be used with slower charging vehicles.

never seen an EA that charges by the minute, but I avoid EA like the plague for all the reasons you listed.

 

[Mathme]

I don't get too cranky with someone in a Bold who's attached to the 350 so long as they are there and charging. I try to give people the benefit as there's always the possibility that may have been the only charger available when they started.

As others have said, since the overall time is roughly equal, I'll take whichever is easiest -- a 350 or a 150 -- when they are available and I need a significant amount of charge.

 

[SwampNut]

On a recent road trip, there was another Rivian owner who plugged into an EA charger and left the S unattended, their car finished charging and they took another 20 mins to come back to their vehicle..

Meanwhile there was a line of cars piling up and standing around while temps were in the 90's.

finally one person got fed up with waiting and unplugged the Rivian and plugged into their car.

When the couple came back they acted all pissy and offended..

They need to charge idle fees like Tesla.

And then there’s this asshole….

 

[srnyoung]

It's the future. Any new installs at EA seem to be 350kW, I don't think the newest hardware even comes with a 150kW option. For example Madras, OR EA just came online recently with 6 350kW spots. They likely have some power sharing but that helps resolve the slow charging vehicle problem.

The new EA at Freddy's near my house in N Portland is the same way - all 350 stations.
And yesterday, a MachE, EV6 and EV9 were all pissed at the blue R1S camped out at 100% for all the 15 minutes I was there at the EA in Longview.

Not everyone is as considerate or intelligent as we are, I guess...

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