I do appreciate you thinking outside the box on a possible pay-to-play option. While I think it would be worth exploring, I think that may just cause more outrage like it did with BMW when they tried that (from what I understand, I've never owned a BMW). It certainly would at least satisfy the needs of the most ardent CarPlay/AA supporters while making it more in Rivian's interest as well (and hopefully keep Rivian's incentives aligned to continue to build their own UI for all the people who choose not to subscribe). So maybe there is something to that.Do you remember my first post in this thread? My second comment about this poll was, "Next, I don’t think this poll will accomplish anything other than spark more argument on here rather than rational discussion." and look at you trying to argue rather than discuss.You're assuming/inferring my intent in your first paragraph, above, and I'm trying to stay out of politics so just let me say that I doubt I'm talking about what you think but let's just take it as a given that I'm someone who tries to be empathetic about others, and that at a bare minimum I wouldn't run interference about a mere discussion on the internet, let alone something more important.
You don't want CarPlay or screen projection? Great, that's what's right for you. There are people on here who want the option of things that either I don't care about, or I actively don't want. I don't argue against them because they're options.
I presented a scenario which is win/win in my earlier post and you didn't address it, "Rivian can implement CarPlay and charge for it. Heck, they could charge for it upfront to make sure there is suitable demand on a sort of put up or shut up move. (Unlike “FSD” I have faith that Rivian would provide what they’re selling for a up charge.) Whatever they charge over and above development costs related to CarPlay can be used to fund development of the native infotainment to make it even better. So instead of the native system withering on the vine, Rivian could use the extra income to make the native system the best in class / no screen projection required they’ve been touting."
Look, you're reading things that I didn't write and appear to be ignoring things that I did. You seem to think that I imagine only two universes when I am open to more possibilities than that. Heck, I even mentioned a version where Rivian stays the course and only adds screen projection at end of life to keep the hardware viable longer in my first post of this thread, "I hope that at a bare minimum the final update for a hardware platform they no longer plan to support will include an option to buy screen projection capability to prolong the useful life of the hardware by leveraging the smart phone connected to it." I'm perfectly capable of seeing nuances, coming up with solutions, and generally brainstorming.
Let me try reframing this: People were having a discussion about a feature they'd like added to their vehicles. I contributed to the thread and, foolishly, thought that I could bring a larger abstract concept of how people treat one another and applied it to what I thought was a low-stakes scenario. Like, maybe someone out there might recognize a behavior they see in others or in themselves, question it, and perhaps make the world a better place.
People who don't know me or my circumstances telling me how I should think and what is best for me annoys me. I'm sorry that I got you upset.
Well… except for all the development and maintenance time involved. And, of course, potentially hurting their current business model.
Right because developing your own phone interface, Spotify, Amazon Music, etc etc is easier. I just do not agree with this sentiment at all. And do we really think $14 a month is going to cover the cost for all of this, doubtful.
You should have included Android Auto as well for the millions of Andriod users out there.
It blows my mind that this isn't available on Rivians. All of my vehicles allow me to play my music on a USB stick like my own personal jukbox. Hell, my first Audi (back in 2011) did the same thing with dual SD card slots and it even allowed me to upload all of those music files to the vehicle's hard drive, which ironically was called Audi's "Jukebox"
That's life. I don't want/need a big, stupid glass roof, but have to pay for it anyway since Rivian decided to make it a standard feature of the vehicle.
Because those who have had CP or at least understand its value realize there is a huge gap between CP and the Rivian stack in terms of apps and usability. The only way this debate goes away if for Rivian to offer CP or match its content and abilities.OK...Rant on...Why is CarPlay asked about evert .25 days? RJ has said at multiple times that CP/AA are not on the horizon and Rivian has no plans to introduce it. You knew that when you bought the car.
Rant off, now back yo your regularly-scheduled forum.
CarPlay is free from Apple, though of course there's some work to build it in. Having worked with Apple devs, they don't think it's huge, and might be LESS expense than what Rivian has done to half-ass their own UI.
Telling others they can't have important features is akin to making everyone go to happy hour at a salad bar because you're on a diet.
