Wet Floor Board - Again

[Fmc]

Has anyone had the wet floor board issue twice?

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[godfodder0901]

Has anyone had the wet floor board issue twice?

There are like 3 or 4 threads about it so I'd say yes...

 

[Fmc]

There are like 3 or 4 threads about it so I'd say yes...

Thanks. Upsetting but part of being an early adopter?!

 

[onesoil]

It’s so strange to me how this wasn’t a problem in the first couple years, but now seems like a very widespread issue. My father’s Launch R1T bricked due to condensate backing into the cabin, my 2022 R1T is in the shop now getting the whole HVAC/carpet replacement as we speak (and faulty AXM modules on both, which I’m suspecting is actually related, though they haven’t confirmed this yet).

We also have a 2024 truck with wet mats that will be taking the 3+ hour trip to Chelsea or Canton ASAP (October 28th unless they bump us up ).

 

[Fmc]

@onesoil is your 2024 a gen2?

 

[onesoil]

@onesoil is your 2024 a gen2?

Gen 1. I’m not sure if I’ve heard of any Gen 2s with this issue, have you?

 

[Fmc]

@onesoil i am not sure. I keep trying to justify an upgrade maybe this is it

 

[onesoil]

@onesoil i am not sure. I keep trying to justify an upgrade maybe this is it

I believe they have a totally different HVAC system, what with Gen 2s having a heat pump, so I would hope they designed it better than the Gen 1 system (which has had various issues with cooling from the beginning, though this drain issue seems to be increasingly prevalent this summer for whatever reason).

I am hoping to make it to Gen 3, Scout, or something I haven’t heard of yet in a few years—I do sometimes wonder if I’m crazy for wanting to stay with Rivian given how many major problems we’ve had with two of our four trucks (and one of the newer ones has had a few major things already). I usually just end up pegging it up to being very early adopters, which came with the expectation that there would be some teething pains. It does concern me how many new and different issues Gen 2 seem to have, but there again, with it being a pretty substantial redesign, I’m sure 2026+ will start being more reliable.

It’s also hard for me to make the financial justification given how much more money Gen 2 trucks are new, and I figure if I go with another Rivian in a couple years (or whenever my warranty runs out), it may be a lightly used/demo Gen 2 or Gen 3 if I make it that long since new pricing has gotten so spendy.

But, hey, they’ve clearly got many of us where they want us if we’re considering an upgrade to a newer truck to get more reliability! If I were you I might wait it out a bit longer to see if newer Gen 2 trucks are more reliable than the earlier ones. I’m less familiar with the issues present there, but I recall various threads dedicated to their own new/diffetent/(fun/exciting) issues

 

[Fmc]

Maybe there is a trade in incentive for gen1 owners who have repaired the hvac twice

 

[Hereforthesnacks]

It’s so strange to me how this wasn’t a problem in the first couple years, but now seems like a very widespread issue. My father’s Launch R1T bricked due to condensate backing into the cabin, my 2022 R1T is in the shop now getting the whole HVAC/carpet replacement as we speak (and faulty AXM modules on both, which I’m suspecting is actually related, though they haven’t confirmed this yet).

We also have a 2024 truck with wet mats that will be taking the 3+ hour trip to Chelsea or Canton ASAP (October 28th unless they bump us up ).

I’m guessing it takes time for the clog to build up. Could be critical mass now.

To be fair, this happens with a lot of cars. Maybe not as much as with the R1s, but I’ve have a couple of cars where they had to blow out the drain. Didn’t happen more than once per car though.

 

[Fmc]

I have already had the HVAC assembly replaced and they also replaced the drain valve during my annual inspection. We shall see if third time is a charm or this will be an annual repair. Thought I would hold on to this car for 10 years.

 

[onesoil]

I’m guessing it takes time for the clog to build up. Could be critical mass now.

To be fair, this happens with a lot of cars. Maybe not as much as with the R1s, but I’ve have a couple of cars where they had to blow out the drain. Didn’t happen more than once per car though.

True, but how do we explain people who’ve had the work done two or more times with recurring problems in short periods of time? It’s just strange that the system could be fine for a couple years and then all of a sudden plug, then plug again shortly after the work was done.

There are several posts on the thread I started of at least one repair with the issue coming back shortly after: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...eck-your-carpets-for-signs-of-moisture.48540/

I almost wonder if there’s some software issue that’s causing something about the hardware to malfunction? I really have no basis for this and am fully speculating, but I do know that HVAC handling has changed a fair amount over the years (for better and sometimes worse) with various firmware releases. Could there be some way the HVAC is being controlled that leads to more frequent drain clogging? What substance actually causes the clog? I know with sunroof drains (or other drains throughout a car body), it’s usually foreign debris (pine needles, leaves, etc.). But what plugs up an HVAC drain?

Just some ruminations and questions. I’ll ask some more detailed questions when I go to pick my truck up (which has been gone almost 20 days… and is requiring a windshield replacement due to them cracking it while doing this job, which will mean I have to get it tinted again the IR rejecting 70% tint, ironically, helps with heat buildup significantly).

 

[Hereforthesnacks]

True, but how do we explain people who’ve had the work done two or more times with recurring problems in short periods of time? It’s just strange that the system could be fine for a couple years and then all of a sudden plug, then plug again shortly after the work was done.

There are several posts on the thread I started of at least one repair with the issue coming back shortly after: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...eck-your-carpets-for-signs-of-moisture.48540/

I almost wonder if there’s some software issue that’s causing something about the hardware to malfunction? I really have no basis for this and am fully speculating, but I do know that HVAC handling has changed a fair amount over the years (for better and sometimes worse) with various firmware releases. Could there be some way the HVAC is being controlled that leads to more frequent drain clogging? What substance actually causes the clog? I know with sunroof drains (or other drains throughout a car body), it’s usually foreign debris (pine needles, leaves, etc.). But what plugs up an HVAC drain?

Just some ruminations and questions. I’ll ask some more detailed questions when I go to pick my truck up (which has been gone almost 20 days… and is requiring a windshield replacement due to them cracking it while doing this job, which will mean I have to get it tinted again the IR rejecting 70% tint, ironically, helps with heat buildup significantly).

It’s probably a physical design issue. If we are trying to keep it simple.

 

[Fmc]

Rivian needs to introduce their extended warranty ASAP.​

 

[a99ieJem]

I've had it happen twice. First time bricked my truck and SC replaced entire HVAC unit. The second time I caught it early because of the smell and felt the wet carpet. SC replaced the bottom portion of the HVAC unit I think. I wasn't really paying attention to the tech. I do like having new carpet put in every year or so...but it's always a hassle getting service done.

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