Doctorjorts
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Ok, I am following you. You said that basically the vehicle should be at neutral toe and camber (or at least ideal toe and camber) at the standard ride height, anything else results in slight changes to both. Changes to toe especially may result in faster tire wear. I think the difference from standard to highest and lowest is close to 2.75” each (max delta about 5.5” from lowest to highest height from what I measured when taking delivery). This is a big change in ride height. Most forum posts regarding suspension changes recommend realigning a car that gets a permanent suspension adjustment of even 1” because of tire wear concerns.JGard18 explained well. To allow for lots of suspension travel, and prevent the tire rubbing the inside of the fender well, and control certain handling characteristics in lower/sportier situations, certain geometries have to change as heights vary. This means components have to be shaped specifically to force these changes.
Camber, where the tops of the tires tilt slightly in/out, tend to tilt inward at lower heights to clear the fenders in tight turns, as well as improve handling to counteract the vehicle's lean when cornering.
Toe, I'll just quote JGard18.
Our trucks are aligned at the standard ride height. When the truck lowers, camber changes slightly which doesn't hurt tread wear much. BUT, toe also changes which is the biggest culprit. It is very very slight, but still...
If you drive in a perfectly straight line, your steering wheel should be perfectly straight. When you change ride heights, up or down, you'll notice the steering wheel being very slightly turned to (likely) the right by just a degree or so. This can only really be explained by toe changing (only in the front of the truck, btw).
All that to say, I use all purpose, auto height, and have 22k miles on my AT tires and still have an easy 10k more to go. Being between standard and low ride heights seems to have had little to no effect on real wear. And I'm not exactly easy on the throttle.
Yes, it can cause faster wear. Unless alignment is already bad, however, I think driving habits have a greater impact.
So unless the Rivian is re-aligning the tow automatically in response to height changes, (which seems plausible but I haven’t seen this posted anywhere) the best tire wear should be at standard height. Yeah?
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