Rivian should focus on features that set them apart from the rest of the industry, not AA/CP.

[frostbit3]

I'm not stuck on CP/AA on being the only solution, but I will say it's the only solution that will scale long term with the limited number of developers Rivian currently has. Tesla is much larger than Rivian and it took them 7.5 years to bring Apple Music natively into Tesla's UI. Audible still isn't supported to this day. And that's the point, they can't scale it. Who's going to develop it and maintain it? If Rivian opened up an SDK for companies to develop their own then that may work, the problem though is you have to give a compelling reason for the companies to spend their R&D on learning yet another set of SDK tools and best practices.

I understand peoples sentiment of it's a revenue stream for Rivian, but that basically means we're shit out of luck on getting any sort of native solution until they finally decide to build it. I could see most manufactures switching over to Android Automotive in the coming years and car infotainment basically turning into cell phones of the late 2000's. Everyone had their own operating system and apps and it's was in shambles until Android was developed, and over the years all cell phone manufactures killed their OS's in favor of Android. They can still skin it and make the customizations that they want, but they all share the same underlying OS and apps are cross compatible. That takes a lot of the heavy lifting off of Rivian and let Google do what they do best, and Rivian can customize it to their liking from there but still have the plethora of apps that would be compatible.

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[astonius]

I'm not stuck on CP/AA on being the only solution, but I will say it's the only solution that will scale long term with the limited number of developers Rivian currently has. Tesla is much larger than Rivian and it took them 7.5 years to bring Apple Music natively into Tesla's UI. Audible still isn't supported to this day. And that's the point, they can't scale it. Who's going to develop it and maintain it? If Rivian opened up an SDK for companies to develop their own then that may work, the problem though is you have to give a compelling reason for the companies to spend their R&D on learning yet another set of SDK tools and best practices.

I understand peoples sentiment of it's a revenue stream for Rivian, but that basically means we're shit out of luck on getting any sort of native solution until they finally decide to build it. I could see most manufactures switching over to Android Automotive in the coming years and car infotainment basically turning into cell phones of the late 2000's. Everyone had their own operating system and apps and it's was in shambles until Android was developed, and over the years all cell phone manufactures killed their OS's in favor of Android. They can still skin it and make the customizations that they want, but they all share the same underlying OS and apps are cross compatible. That takes a lot of the heavy lifting off of Rivian and let Google do what they do best, and Rivian can customize it to their liking from there but still have the plethora of apps that would be compatible.

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[staytuned]

Everyone had their own operating system and apps and it's was in shambles until Android was developed, and over the years all cell phone manufactures killed their OS's in favor of Android. They can still skin it and make the customizations that they want, but they all share the same underlying OS and apps are cross compatible.

BlackBerry would like to have a word
That ran QNX (like Rivian)... oh, and they could run Android apps too.

 

[frostbit3]

BlackBerry would like to have a word
That ran QNX (like Rivian)... oh, and they could run Android apps too.

I'd have to say that didn't work out very well for them. Coming from a Blackberry Enterprise Server manager in a past life, it was a complete piece of garbage. I was so happy the day we dumped it since everyone was complaining about having to use blackberry since everything else had switched to Android/iOS. It was cool before Android existed, I used it a lot before Android and iPhones existed, but once I switched over from it I never turned back. And looking at market share year over year, neither did anyone else.

 

[Dark-Fx]

And looking at market share year over year, neither did anyone else.

Blackberry's problem in the phone market was that they didn't adapt while keeping the thing that differentiated them. The physical keyboard. I still hate typing on touchscreens.

 

[jpal]

I'm firmly in the anti-CP/AA camp for Rivian, even though I'm fine using it in my wife's Tahoe (despite its glitches):

(1) I hate the "if you don't like it, then you don't have to use it" argument. If Rivian implements CP/AA, then overlapping features in their core UI will get deprioritized, which I don't want.
(2) We're quickly tracking towards a world where software is everything in most industries, and hardware is more of a commodity. I think we'll continue to see that in the automotive industry as well over the next 10 years. It would be foolish of Rivian to give up control here.
(3) Proprietary software is by definition more flexible and customizable to a company's individual needs. I want a seamless, highly customized experience to my vehicle. I don't want a fragmented experience bouncing around between two interfaces.

 

[astonius]

(1) I hate the "if you don't like it, then you don't have to use it" argument. If Rivian implements CP/AA, then overlapping features in their core UI will get deprioritized, which I don't want.

Why? Rivian can do better than CP/AA.

 

[Dark-Fx]

(1) I hate the "if you don't like it, then you don't have to use it" argument. If Rivian implements CP/AA, then overlapping features in their core UI will get deprioritized, which I don't want.

I've broken or had phones spontaneously decide to break on several occasions. I hope Rivian would keep working on everything that's an existing feature at the point where they implement projection things. It would be exceptionally annoying to be out riding my bike in an unfamiliar area, break my phone, and come back to the truck and have to struggle to figure out how to get back out of whereever I'm at if the truck didn't have decent built-in navigation like it does.

 

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Wireless AA on my old Chevy work truck (after updating the head unit) has been an absolute game changer. Too old to learn something else now. Not sure what people are talking about "two different interfaces". My phone doesn't even come off my belt while driving anymore (which is, undoubtedly, safer).

Holding my Rivian reservation in hopes that by the time it does get called in a year or two, they'll have added this feature (and fixed some of the other glaring issues this forum likes to beat about). If not, I've already got reservations for other EV trucks and an ICE Silverado on order, that shouldn't have this dumb limitation. But you do you, LOL. ?

 

[PappaBolt]

I've broken or had phones spontaneously decide to break on several occasions. I hope Rivian would keep working on everything that's an existing feature at the point where they implement projection things. It would be exceptionally annoying to be out riding my bike in an unfamiliar area, break my phone, and come back to the truck and have to struggle to figure out how to get back out of whereever I'm at if the truck didn't have decent built-in navigation like it does.

I’ve also had Rivian spontaneous break and needed my phone. ?

 

[jpal]

Wireless AA on my old Chevy work truck (after updating the head unit) has been an absolute game changer. Too old to learn something else now. Not sure what people are talking about "two different interfaces". My phone doesn't even come off my belt while driving anymore (which is, undoubtedly, safer).

Holding my Rivian reservation in hopes that by the time it does get called in a year or two, they'll have added this feature (and fixed some of the other glaring issues this forum likes to beat about). If not, I've already got reservations for other EV trucks and an ICE Silverado on order, that shouldn't have this dumb limitation. But you do you, LOL. ?

The two different interfaces would be the AA/CP interface, and the Rivian native interface. In many older cars, you can just use the AA/CP interface, and use physical buttons for everything else (like air conditioning, etc.). With a Rivian, there is a much larger set of things that you can't do in AA/CP that you would need to use the Rivian interface for, so you would need to use both.

 

[windblowlc]

I've broken or had phones spontaneously decide to break on several occasions. I hope Rivian would keep working on everything that's an existing feature at the point where they implement projection things. It would be exceptionally annoying to be out riding my bike in an unfamiliar area, break my phone, and come back to the truck and have to struggle to figure out how to get back out of whereever I'm at if the truck didn't have decent built-in navigation like it does.

Which item do you think would decide to spontaneously break, the phone or the Rivian??? And when they do work at their finest, which one do you think would get you out without a struggle???

 

[PappaBolt]

Which item do you think would decide to spontaneously break, the phone or the Rivian??? And when they do work at their finest, which one do you think would get you out without a struggle???

Let’s assume ample LTE signal in said comparison?

 

[srnyoung]

Those 25 Tidal users are really appreciating Rivian’s strategy of adding one new media app per year.

I hear VIMEO integration is on the roadmap for this summer viewing pleasure...
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[Dark-Fx]

From here, thread is "what surprised you": https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...ou-preferably-in-a-good-way.11661/post-267503

How important AA/CP is to people....

I know! I'm terrible! I'll stand over by the post for ritual stoning now. I'm sorry! ?

Makes me wonder if anyone has actually cancelled their Rivian over the lack of AA/CP. Anyone put their money where their mouth is over it yet?

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