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I am getting solar installed soon and as part of the installation, they are going to put two plugs in my garage for chargers. I have a tesla model s and my R1T. I have asked them if they will hardwire the chargers if i provide them and they have said they cant.

I have looked at various chargers and think I am going with two chargepoint home flex chargers as I have heard these get good reviews. When ordering, it asks if I need a NEMA 6-50 or 14-50 model. I am not sure my solar company has a particular one in mind yet, just installing 2 EV "outlets"

1). Does anyone have any thoughts for or against the home flex?

2). Is there a benefit to having one type of outlet over the other?

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I think the 14-50 is more versatile. But it has little to do with the charger and more to do if you buy other high powered devices and they only have those plugs.
 

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I am getting solar installed soon and as part of the installation, they are going to put two plugs in my garage for chargers. I have a tesla model s and my R1T. I have asked them if they will hardwire the chargers if i provide them and they have said they cant.

I have looked at various chargers and think I am going with two chargepoint home flex chargers as I have heard these get good reviews. When ordering, it asks if I need a NEMA 6-50 or 14-50 model. I am not sure my solar company has a particular one in mind yet, just installing 2 EV "outlets"

1). Does anyone have any thoughts for or against the home flex?

2). Is there a benefit to having one type of outlet over the other?

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I've used the home flex for over a year, flawless and I really like the app.
 

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If you hardwire, you can get the fastest charging possible. if they wont hardwire, can they just run the wires and appropriate breaker and terminate it in a box. You can easily connect to the EVSE.
 

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You May want to think about the Wallbox Pulsar Plus. You can connect two of them to the same electrical source, and they will share the charging duties automatically between the two cars.
 

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We have multiple circuits in our garage already (former owner of our house was a mechanic for Tesla). If I had to limit to just two, I'd do a 14-50 and a hardwire point for the Rivian home charger.
 

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I have the Home Flex, it's great, but some notes. The cable for the plug is only 1 foot. So the charger needs to be mounted right next to the plug. I went with a plug so I have the option to change chargers in the future more easily. Also, most plugs (14-50) are mounted with the ground wire on the bottom, but the Home Flex plug has the wire at the top. Works fine for mounting inside the garage, but the receptacle has to be flipped for exterior mounting (I had to do that after changing to the home flex from the juicebox).
 

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I am getting solar installed soon and as part of the installation, they are going to put two plugs in my garage for chargers. I have a tesla model s and my R1T. I have asked them if they will hardwire the chargers if i provide them and they have said they cant.

I have looked at various chargers and think I am going with two chargepoint home flex chargers as I have heard these get good reviews. When ordering, it asks if I need a NEMA 6-50 or 14-50 model. I am not sure my solar company has a particular one in mind yet, just installing 2 EV "outlets"

1). Does anyone have any thoughts for or against the home flex?

2). Is there a benefit to having one type of outlet over the other?

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14-50 for sure. There's no neutral in the 6-50. If you're putting in a brand new circuit, I'd get the "proper" one and do the 14-50 with all the wires. Home charger like the Grizzly would work awesome with the car. My parents have this charger for their Ioniq 5 and it works great. Super beefy cords and feels very safe. Has great reviews too, don't take my word for it.
 

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14-50. If hardwiring is an option, I'd hardwire at least one for the Rivian charger. Otherwise I think you'll be limited to a max charge rate of 40A/9.6kW (instead of the 48A/11.5 kW max the R1 can take). It's a difference of about 5 miles per hour on the Rivian large pack.
 

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14-50 for sure. There's no neutral in the 6-50. If you're putting in a brand new circuit, I'd get the "proper" one and do the 14-50 with all the wires. Home charger like the Grizzly would work awesome with the car. My parents have this charger for their Ioniq 5 and it works great. Super beefy cords and feels very safe. Has great reviews too, don't take my word for it.
+1 On the Grizzl-E, its quite beefy, and very easy to mount. If doing the outlet, i'd definitely go for the NEMA 14-50, more versatile.
 

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I'd have the solar contractor wire two junction boxes with the wires capped inside the boxes with cover plates. Then either hardwire yourself, or hire a local electrician to finish off the hardwiring. That would make it a super easy job forcthe electrician.

You could also get a rebate for all or partial installation costs for an EV charger. Most power companies will require that you produce a receipt from a qualified installer.
 
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+1 On the Grizzl-E, its quite beefy, and very easy to mount. If doing the outlet, i'd definitely go for the NEMA 14-50, more versatile.
Lol shows you were my head was this morning, can't even spell the product correctly. Grizzl-E FTW!
 

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Lol shows you were my head was this morning, can't even spell the product correctly. Grizzl-E FTW!
Haha, I always find myself saying Grizzly so totally got what you meant.... I have the white avalanche edition one, I want to call it the Polar Bear :)
 

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I'd have the solar contractor wire two junction boxes with the wires capped inside the boxes with cover plates. Then either hardwire yourself, or hire a local electrician to finish off the hardwiring. That would make it a super easy job forcthe electrician.

You could also get a rebate for all or partial installation costs for an EV charger. Most power companies will require that you produce a receipt from a qualified installer.
Not a bad idea if you want to hardwire, but make sure they use #6 THHN wire (90 degree) so that if you do hardwire, after the fact, they won't need to run new cable. That should allow for a max of a 70 amp circuit breaker. Then you can get the max out of the Chargepoint Flex
 
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thanks everyone for the advice. I will order the 14-50 version and play it by ear as far as having them terminating the wires in the box. That way I can try to have it wired.
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