New R1 Refresh spotted photos! [Updated w/ New Wheel Aero Covers pic]

[Rividiculous]

I do wonder if electrochromic roof is a red herring leak or a legit future feature.

FWIW, last July, RJ told me at an event that the electrochromic roof (and the heat pump) was coming Q2 2024. I’m hoping it’s here and the price isn’t too crazy.

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[the long way downunder]

FWIW, last July, RJ told me at an event that the electrochromic roof (and the heat pump) was coming Q2 2024. I’m hoping it’s here and the price isn’t too crazy.

funnily enough, I think it's clear to all the EV makers they have to give up their fat margins ... Tesla had it too good, for too long, and when Tesla tried aggressive price discovery (rampant gouging) they scrood the pooch, killed the golden goose …
Rivian's situation is the need to ramp up production and find a buyer for every unit they can build, so they need to find the price points that make that happen.
Porsche can stick to their brand value and ownership experience, and ask $80K to $100K for their Macan EV … and they'll get it and Porschephiles will be lined up waiting to sign the finance paperwork at 7% for the life-changing experience of soon having a 2 year-old Macan EV for trade-in that nobody wants … just like the Taycan … : )
Rivian has a different customer and needs to sell in volume to spread their cost per unit and show the investor that they are growing …

 

[Calvin2518]

FWIW, last July, RJ told me at an event that the electrochromic roof (and the heat pump) was coming Q2 2024. I’m hoping it’s here and the price isn’t too crazy.

Confirmed from a service tech today. They just had training on “electrochromic roof glass” from what they told me.

 

[Scoiatael]

Confirmed from a service tech today. They just had training on “electrochromic roof glass” from what they told me.

That sounds expensive to replace if it cracks.

 

[dleewla]

Not sure why all the hate for the new 22s with aero covers. Definitely better than the previous 21s that they replace. Once you see them in person you’ll like them more

 

[tate16t]

Not sure if this summarized list was posted yet.

https://riviantrackr.com/news/rivian-refresh-roundup-what-we-know/

 

[Supratachophobia]

A much bigger Max pack is definitely a dream that is unlikely to happen for years, unfortunately. I was waiting for 180 kWh, and am still seriously disappointed it was only a measly 142 kWh. Like you, I irrationally hold out hope it still may happen.

As long as the a R1S is shorter, no chance for real max pack. Originally the plan was to put extra modules where the 3rd row footwell was, and in the T, extra modules "behind" the existing pack. But Rivian can't make two additional physical footprint batteries and an additional R1S 5 seat trim. Nor do I think they should at this point with limited cash on hand. Can't believe I'm saying that.


For a refresh refresh, they should extend the S to match the T chassis and then do 1 additional for-realsies-max-pack option (physically larger battery pack) that fits in both without modification to the interior.

 

[Supratachophobia]

FWIW, last July, RJ told me at an event that the electrochromic roof (and the heat pump) was coming Q2 2024. I’m hoping it’s here and the price isn’t too crazy.

Then just shut up and take my money.

 

[Dark-Fx]

As long as the a R1S is shorter, no chance for real max pack. Originally the plan was to put extra modules where the 3rd row footwell was, and in the T, extra modules "behind" the existing pack. But Rivian can't make two additional physical footprint batteries and an additional R1S 5 seat trim. Nor do I think they should at this point with limited cash on hand. Can't believe I'm saying that.


For a refresh refresh, they should extend the S to match the T chassis and then do 1 additional for-realsies-max-pack option (physically larger battery pack) that fits in both without modification to the interior.

I could see Rivian still deciding to do it just for the R1T for those that tow, to increase sales. Especially in light of competition looking increasingly better because of the additional battery capacity they have over Rivian. But I think the real issue is they just don't have the room in their payload figures for that much additional battery. I was hoping to see GVWR get a small bump in the refresh, but they didn't do it for the dual motors. Seems unlikely to happen for the tri or quad, but I suppose not impossible.

 

[mkhuffman]

As long as the a R1S is shorter, no chance for real max pack. Originally the plan was to put extra modules where the 3rd row footwell was, and in the T, extra modules "behind" the existing pack. But Rivian can't make two additional physical footprint batteries and an additional R1S 5 seat trim. Nor do I think they should at this point with limited cash on hand. Can't believe I'm saying that.


For a refresh refresh, they should extend the S to match the T chassis and then do 1 additional for-realsies-max-pack option (physically larger battery pack) that fits in both without modification to the interior.

The financial health of the company must take priority. I agree with you: adding another model at this point would be risky and a bad business decision. I'm just disappointed they couldn't make it work as they planned.

 

[savethemanual]

That sounds expensive to replace if it cracks.

Ha, there's nothing inexpensive nowadays when it comes to vehicle repairs

 

[DaveA]

I can't unsee it. They look like cheap walmart chrome painted wheel caps.

My Post #310 visualized.

Like I've said before, a good design to compliment the amazing R1S doesn't cost a dime. Whoever designed these needs to be fired.

Ooof....pugly...

 

[the long way downunder]

That sounds expensive to replace if it cracks.

Any sunroof is expensive and a bad choice for a "utility" vehicle.
The main thing is that it actually blocks heat and effectively keeps the cabin cooler.
These buyers are "luxury daily driver lifestyle status symbol" buyers; so the bling sunroof is a smart "wow, cool" feature to offer.
Worst case, it's a $1000 deductible.

 

[R1Tom]

Any sunroof is expensive and a bad choice for a "utility" vehicle.
The main thing is that it actually blocks heat and effectively keeps the cabin cooler.
These buyers are "luxury daily driver lifestyle status symbol" buyers; so the bling sunroof is a smart "wow, cool" feature to offer.
Worse case, it's a $1000 deductible.

I think the insurance companies are catching on to the cost of repairs on these things.....my premium shot up a bunch on the last renewal....and I have zero claims in over a decade.

I do think it should be an option that stands on its own. Price it at whatever it takes to make it appropriately profitable and make it available. Same with bringing back a premium audio system like the Meridian. Profitable options are the way....

 

[the long way downunder]

As long as the a R1S is shorter, no chance for real max pack. Originally the plan was to put extra modules where the 3rd row footwell was, and in the T, extra modules "behind" the existing pack. But Rivian can't make two additional physical footprint batteries and an additional R1S 5 seat trim. Nor do I think they should at this point with limited cash on hand. Can't believe I'm saying that.


For a refresh refresh, they should extend the S to match the T chassis and then do 1 additional for-realsies-max-pack option (physically larger battery pack) that fits in both without modification to the interior.

I'm also thinking they could offer the R1S in the R1T chassis and add rear-wheel steering to all wheelbases as an option. GM and Ford just keep on selling their long wheelbase SUVs, same technology from the 90s and similar mpg.

Some buyers need the land yacht and are paying for $5 gas at 18mpg and rarely drive further in one day than would require a single supercharger stop for 30 minutes … and would never need to "find cheap gas" again.

But the R1 isn't the production volume Rivian needs, so I assume this refresh is all about lean manufacturing and cutting the loss per unit.

They rushed the R1 to market, which turned out to be the right move. Now it has to make do till the R2 builds the business.

Personally, I'm on the fence about the R1, but the R2X is a slam dunk (assuming they actually execute and deliver and don't feature-delete and de-content, which is why I'm not all on board with the R1.)

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