Rivian CEO says Apple CarPlay isn’t going to happen…

[ThumprMN]

Interview on The Verge confirming a bit more of the reasoning for not doing full Apple CarPlay integration… but talks about a few features that they are working on….

https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/22/24203609/rivian-apple-carplay-support-rj-scaringe-decoder

Some pertinent quotes…
“We have a great relationship with Apple,” he said. “As much as I love their products, there’s a reason that ironically is very consistent with Apple ethos for us to want to control the ecosystem.” CarPlay isn’t “consistent with how we think about really creating a pure product experience,” Scaringe said.

“We recognize that it’ll take us time to fully capture every feature that’s in CarPlay, and hopefully, customers are seeing that. I think it often gets more noise than it deserves,” Scaringe said in the interview. “The other thing beyond mapping that’s coming is better integration with texting. We know that needs to come, and it’s something that teams are actively working on.”

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[savethemanual]

Put those engineers to work on more important things, AA and CP already have texting integration figured out! No need to reinvent the wheel.

 

[momo3605]

100% in agreement! Rivian UI as well Teslas UI has a much for robust interface and features. Name one car that has a proper infotainment and EV related charging, planning features along with integration to Carplay? The only one I know that has tried this is Lucid and it's pretty much crap. They push small feature updates maybe every 6 months, but it's nowhere near the effort that Rivian and Tesla put in to their UIs

 

[jjswan33]

100% in agreement! Rivian UI as well Teslas UI has a much for robust interface and features. Name one car that has a proper infotainment and EV related charging, planning features along with integration to Carplay? The only one I know that has tried this is Lucid and it's pretty much crap. They push small feature updates maybe every 6 months, but it's nowhere near the effort that Rivian and Tesla put in to their UIs

But still no reason Rivian couldn't offer both for those that want CP features.

Agree it probably isn't going to happen at this point but the reason RJ is giving for not including it is BS. It all has to do with $$

 

[Gyrosntzatziki]

This comment about the trunk was insane to me:

"One example given by Scaringe includes CarPlay’s inability to “leverage other parts of the vehicle experience,” which would require Rivian customers to leave the app in order to do things like open the vehicle’s front trunk. “We’ve taken the view of the digital experience in the vehicle wants to feel consistent and holistically harmonious across every touchpoint"​

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The user experience to open the frunk would virtually be unchanged with Apple Carplay. Hit park, tap the car icon and then hit frunk. I would gladly have this 1 extra step to get to the frunk if it meant I had carplay. Also, I almost never open the frunk from inside. It's always with the physical button at the front of my car...

Like savethemanuel said, Stop trying to develop worse software and just integrate carplay. If Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes are down with, you can be too.

 

[BrianB]

I get Rivian wants to own their ecosystem, but Apple has a 2.2 billion phone installed base. They're UI is better and keeps getting better faster than any car company can match. E.g. in the Rivian Spotify UI, to select or deselect "shuffle", you have to click down another level in the UI. In iOS, you don't. This despite the Rivian screen being 10 times bigger than an iPhone.

Rivian doesn't make tires or wiper blades, why do they need to try to compete with Waze on navigation and Apple/Android on CarPlay? If Rivian's UI beats CarPlay, it will win. Let us choose.

 

[Mountain Life]

Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe says too many carmakers are copying Tesla... as he copies Tesla.

 

[Honey]

Thank god

 

[savethemanual]

Also, the new version of CP can be custom made for Rivian like Porsche and Aston Martin did.

 

[racekarl]

Name one car that has a proper infotainment and EV related charging, planning features along with integration to Carplay?

Porsche

 

[momo3605]

Porsche

I would disagree. I've driven the Taycan extensively, and while it has ev routing through Apple Maps in Carplay, it's horribly simplistic. You can't filter chargers, speeds, waypoints, or anything. You have no control over what random charger it will take you too. Additionally, Porsche's own maps sucks too. Buttons are small, settings are all over the place, and it's hard to find what you're looking for there too.

 

[ndmiller]

Good on him for explaining, too bad it won't end the conversations on this forum. Now get back to work on the strategy RJ.....R2's aren't going to build themselves.

 

[racekarl]

I would disagree. I've driven the Taycan extensively, and while it has ev routing through Apple Maps in Carplay, it's horribly simplistic. You can't filter chargers, speeds, waypoints, or anything. You have no control over what random charger it will take you too. Additionally, Porsche's own maps sucks too. Buttons are small, settings are all over the place, and it's hard to find what you're looking for there too.

And, so what? Rivian's map and route planning are worse. The challenge was to name a car with its own EV route planning and CarPlay. Stop moving the goal posts.

 

[momo3605]

And, so what? Rivian's map and route planning are worse. The challenge was to name a car with its own EV route planning and CarPlay. Stop moving the goal posts.

i said "proper" infotainment and planning features. Porsche's infotainment is not proper (aka it's not good) and their carplay integration doesn't even have any planning features, so no i'm not moving goal posts. I'll be more direct. Porsche's implementation sucks. If someone took away your Rivian infotainment and gave you Porsches, you would be banging your head on a wall. It's terrible.

 

[racekarl]

i said "proper" infotainment and planning features. Porsche's infotainment is not proper (aka it's not good) and their carplay integration doesn't even have any planning features, so no i'm not moving goal posts. I'll be more direct. Porsche's implementation sucks. If someone took away your Rivian infotainment and gave you Porsches, you would be banging your head on a wall. It's terrible.

My previous car was a Jaguar with InControl Touch, you can't scare me

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