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Perhaps I misunderstand but isn't the idea of watching video while driving the very definition of a distracted driver? Doesn't that make everyone doing it a bad actor? If so, then why should video while driving be available?
Because I want to mirror my phone to my car's screen so I can use Waze or Google Maps natively, instead of via Android Auto.

It is personal preference, but I don't like Android Auto because it lacks some of the functionality I have on my phone. So that stupid CA law is keeping me from doing something that I could do that is just as safe as using my phone to do it. Which is what I do now.

Nanny laws punish everyone for the very few who do stupid things. And those people still do stupid things, even with nanny laws like the CA one.

Anyway, I really wish Rivian would allow mirroring the phone while in motion. And if I do something stupid with it, that is my problem. Not Rivian's.
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Because I want to mirror my phone to my car's screen so I can use Waze or Google Maps natively, instead of via Android Auto.

It is personal preference, but I don't like Android Auto because it lacks some of the functionality I have on my phone. So that stupid CA law is keeping me from doing something that I could do that is just as safe as using my phone to do it. Which is what I do now.

Nanny laws punish everyone for the very few who do stupid things. And those people still do stupid things, even with nanny laws like the CA one.

Anyway, I really wish Rivian would allow mirroring the phone while in motion. And if I do something stupid with it, that is my problem. Not Rivian's.
That's definitely an interesting (side) discussion. Personally, I would love to be able to have Video in Motion (BMW's naming ;-) ), because I know I wouldn't do anything stupid with it.

BUT, sadly, if someone does something stupid, it might not only end his own life, but also someone else's life, and that's when the problem starts.

So, while I personally think regulations are too tight in this case, this regulation aims to preserve others' lives, so I understand it and respect it even if I don't share the perspective. It's completely the opposite of mandating a Helmet in a motorcycle... You don't want to use one? fine, just wear eye-protection so you don't get temporarily impaired and hit somebody.
 

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This is why Rivian should have kept the eye tracking camera, my R1T vin 5xxx has it. Allow videos for passengers while driving and if drivers eyes avert for more than 2 seconds pause the video. This is similar to what Ford Blue Cruise does with eye tracking.
 

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Because I want to mirror my phone to my car's screen so I can use Waze or Google Maps natively, instead of via Android Auto.

It is personal preference, but I don't like Android Auto because it lacks some of the functionality I have on my phone. So that stupid CA law is keeping me from doing something that I could do that is just as safe as using my phone to do it. Which is what I do now.

Nanny laws punish everyone for the very few who do stupid things. And those people still do stupid things, even with nanny laws like the CA one.

Anyway, I really wish Rivian would allow mirroring the phone while in motion. And if I do something stupid with it, that is my problem. Not Rivian's.
I agree that something needs to be done with regard to navigation. And I can see how that gets wrapped up in a discussion of casting. Different people have different preferences and that different platforms are most certainly better/stronger in a particular geographic area at a given point in time.

I personally think that video casting should not be allowed while the car in moving. I want to be protected from the irresponsible driver as much as possible. Although there are those that will be determined to be distracted, making the video experience easier and more engaging than my/your phone does not seem like a good idea (to me).
 

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That's definitely an interesting (side) discussion. Personally, I would love to be able to have Video in Motion (BMW's naming ;-) ), because I know I wouldn't do anything stupid with it.

BUT, sadly, if someone does something stupid, it might not only end his own life, but also someone

So, while I personally think regulations are too tight in this case, this regulation aims to preserve others' lives, so I understand it and respect it even if I don't share the perspective. It's completely the opposite of mandating a Helmet in a motorcycle... You don't want to use one? fine, just wear eye-protection so you don't get temporarily impaired and hit somebody.
>In 2019 NTHSA estimated losses from car crahses at $340 billion. Those not directly involved in crashes pay for roughly three-quarters of all crash costs, primarily through insurance premiums, taxes, congestion-related costs such as lost time, excess fuel consumption, and increased environmental impacts.<

Our actions on the road do impact society more broadly than one might realize. I don't like regulations any more than anyone else but unfortunately we can't fix stupid so we do our best as a society to limit the damage.
 

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>In 2019 NTHSA estimated losses from car crahses at $340 billion. Those not directly involved in crashes pay for roughly three-quarters of all crash costs, primarily through insurance premiums, taxes, congestion-related costs such as lost time, excess fuel consumption, and increased environmental impacts.<

Our actions on the road do impact society more broadly than one might realize. I don't like regulations any more than anyone else but unfortunately we can't fix stupid so we do our best as a society to limit the damage.
But we can fix stupid in this case with eye tracking.
 

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Will the eye tracking turn off automatically if we cast Pornhub?
As long as both hands are placed on the steering wheel....
 

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Perhaps I misunderstand but isn't the idea of watching video while driving the very definition of a distracted driver? Doesn't that make everyone doing it a bad actor? If so, then why should video while driving be available?
Yes...I would consider a driver watching a video...while driving on a public roadway...to be a distracted driver.

But a passenger...watching a movie while traveling...that wouldn't be a distracted driver.

Or if the vehicle was not on a public road...and anybody wants to watch a video...also not a distracted driver.
 

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Something was lost in translation.

It says 2024.50 so obviously that is in 2024. The 50 means 50th week so middle of December.

If it was in Jan 2025, then it would be 2025.X (X=1-4) for Jan.
2024.50 is when it is declared "final" - it usually takes a couple weeks before it starts rolling out to customer vehicles. Which means 2024.50 will likely start rolling out to Connect+ vehicles at the very end of December. Or first week of January.
 

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2024.50 is when it is declared "final" - it usually takes a couple weeks before it starts rolling out to customer vehicles. Which means 2024.50 will likely start rolling out to Connect+ vehicles at the very end of December. Or first week of January.
It was corrected to 2024.47
 

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As long as both hands are placed on the steering wheel....
Luckily we have capacitive touch for the wheel. Truck won’t know what body peripheral is triggering that ?
 

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The technology may change, but drivers don't. I spent several years of my young life as a Motorcycle Policeman in Tallahassee, Florida.

I observed firsthand that the primary purpose of the windshield mounted rear view mirror was to apply lip stick and eye makeup while driving to work at the State Capitol.

On numerous occasions, I worked minor rear-end collision accidents where the errant driver was wearing a lipstick line half way across her cheek.

As the drivers have not changes, it is probably a good thing that there are restrictions on watching a big screen in a vehicle while driving.

Brian
 

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The technology may change, but drivers don't. I spent several years of my young life as a Motorcycle Policeman in Tallahassee, Florida.

I observed firsthand that the primary purpose of the windshield mounted rear view mirror was to apply lip stick and eye makeup while driving to work at the State Capitol.

On numerous occasions, I worked minor rear-end collision accidents where the errant driver was wearing a lipstick line half way across her cheek.

As the drivers have not changes, it is probably a good thing that there are restrictions on watching a big screen in a vehicle while driving.

Brian
Years ago, at a stoplight, I encountered a woman in the opposite lane who had an eyelash curler on her eyelashes. The light turned green and she pulled out continuing the process as she drove through the intersection, one eye blocked. ?
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