Official: Scout EV SUV & Pickup debut w/ Gas Range Extender EREV, 4x4, BOF, Lockers, Sway Bar Disconnect -- All Specs, Wallpapers, Videos

[Tim-in-CA]

The other thing I saw somewhere is that the Scout is 7" longer than the R1S but still only seats 5, making it more Tahoe-like in size and function.

Yes, when I went to the focus group before the announcement, I was surprised how big it looked and even longer with the mounted spare. If I were to go down this path, I wouldn't be able to get the spare as I don't think it would fit in my garage! When I was shown the inside, I was like "where's the 3rd row". The option for the REX motor was only presented at the end and shown that the price was lower. I'm sure that focus group reaction to that was what helped drive their decision to go down that path.

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[Tim-in-CA]

I had a Chevy Volt. Always thought the generator motor concept was the way to go but it needed more EV range.
This hits it. Reserved.

Same here. Because I could charge at work, and mostly used the Volt (gen 2) for commuting, I was on almost 100% electric. In my 3 years of ownership, I believe I went through only 2.5 tanks of gas. I wonder if the Scout EREV will have an engine maintenance mode like the Volt. My recollection was the that Volt had to run the engine every x number of miles/time and that after a year, was forced to run the engine to burn off the gas so the gas in the tank didn't get stale. That's how I had to use the "free" first tank of gas that the dealer put in.

 

[Jonger1150]

The dude is 75 and was beat-up by the mob a few months ago. give him some grace.

Didn't he have a motorcycle accident and a fall a few months ago.

He has probably aged 10 years from 2023-2024 due to that bad luck.

 

[Tim-in-CA]

Didn't he have a motorcycle accident and a fall a few months ago.

He has probably aged 10 years from 2023-2024 due to that bad luck.

And had his face/arm catch on fire from spilled gasoline from an antique vehicle. You can see the scaring on the left side of his face. People should cut the guy some slack.

 

[TexasBob]

"As bad as Rawlinson" is an impossibly high standard. Even Musk struggles to clear that bar (at least some days).

Annnnd speaking of Rawlinson
https://insideevs.com/news/751792/lucid-ceo-steps-down-rawlinson/

Decided he wanted to spend more time with his family.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Annnnd speaking of Rawlinson
https://insideevs.com/news/751792/lucid-ceo-steps-down-rawlinson/

Decided he wanted to spend more time with his family.

Damn. This isn't a great sign for Lucid.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Sounds like it has straight cut gears lol

Nearly same pitch as v8 and v10 era F1, just not as loud.

 

[TexasBob]

Damn. This isn't a great sign for Lucid.

Stock up in after hours trading. But no, not a great sign. When you get fired and the board says it is going to start searching for his replacement it most definitely looks like anything but "part of the company's regular succession planning process."

 

[LeeY]

Same here. Because I could charge at work, and mostly used the Volt (gen 2) for commuting, I was on almost 100% electric. In my 3 years of ownership, I believe I went through only 2.5 tanks of gas. I wonder if the Scout EREV will have an engine maintenance mode like the Volt. My recollection was the that Volt had to run the engine every x number of miles/time and that after a year, was forced to run the engine to burn off the gas so the gas in the tank didn't get stale. That's how I had to use the "free" first tank of gas that the dealer put in.

we’ll see what happens but 150 miles all electric will put just about everyone in your category. I often said if the Volt could go 100 miles on a charge they would have should millions. Fifty, while adequate, was bad for marketing. And that paddle?

 

[kurtlikevonnegut]

Annnnd speaking of Rawlinson
https://insideevs.com/news/751792/lucid-ceo-steps-down-rawlinson/

Decided he wanted to spend more time with his family.

More likely that the Saudi family wanted him to spend more time with his family.

 

[ksumnole]

Just watched this. I agree the CEO is a bit annoying but a typical sales guy. Keep in mind RJ and Elon are engineers. ?

Few things that shocked me and just general notes:

1) he mentioned 350kwh charging ?
2) I sure hope the 5,000 lb towing with harvester he mentioned is for the Traveler and not the Terra. If the Terra that’d be a total waste.
3) LFP for harvester models makes sense. I highly doubt they’d still be 800V architecture (or at least not for charging)
4) his laugh is the worst and I think it’s his hairdo that gives off Nissan salesman vibes lol
5) People clamoring about the price, the starting price will likely be a base model with smaller battery, without harvester, standard suspension etc. They also have the backing of VW supply chain so will likely have more success at cost scaling.

Elon is not an engineer. He's good at regurgitating information and stutters doing so, making him sound "special".

Also, while I love how the vehicle looks, honestly great design, the harvester is a dumb idea. Something to make boomers feel cozy and warm. This country needs a massive infrastructure investment, like yesterday, to have a world leading charging infrastructure. Not 600 mile range vehicles.

 

[Spaceball1]

Elon is not an engineer. He's good at regurgitating information and stutters doing so, making him sound "special".

Also, while I love how the vehicle looks, honestly great design, the harvester is a dumb idea. Something to make boomers feel cozy and warm. This country needs a massive infrastructure investment, like yesterday, to have a world leading charging infrastructure. Not 600 mile range vehicles.

Ahh sorry I thought I read somewhere one of his degrees was in engineering. He just acts like an introverted engineer ?

 

[elatrickWheels]

Looks good, sounds awful. Perhaps we excuse that for a prototype, but how far before production were the Rivian prototypes in “A Long Way Up?” Those looked a lot closer to production quality than what Jay’s driving, and they proved it on a very arduous test.

I try not to suffer from the hangups that require me to dump on any car that’s not a Rivian and I wish these guys well. The VW backing has to be good for them, as it is for Rivian, and perhaps they’ll benefit from the joint venture, too. I do wonder, though, whether by the time this thing finally starts rolling out (and I’d be surprised if that’s before late ‘27), that some of the current EV limitations they’re designing around will have been addressed:
- More EV charging infrastructure everywhere
- Broader acceptance of EVs in general
- Greater battery capacity
- Cheaper batteries
- Faster charging
Is it totally unrealistic to expect a Gen 3 Rivian with 450 mile range and 800V architecture that can charge from 20-80% in 15 minutes, and half as many charging deserts in the lower 48 as we have today?

Again, good luck to Scout, but I think they might be applying the design constraints that are relevant in 2024, which may well have evaporated by the time the vehicle finally becomes widely available in 2028, if then.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Ahh sorry I thought I read somewhere one of his degrees was in engineering. He just acts like an introverted engineer ?

Self-proclaimed. There's a quote by Neil deGrasse Tyson (a real scientist), something along the lines of [in this info age] it's very easy to know just enough to think you know it all. It's kinda like that. In his own time, at various internships and jobs, he supposedly dabbled in self-taught coding but was never formally educated or accredited as an engineer of any sort. From wiki: Musk has a BA in physics and a BS in economics. He was accepted to graduate program in materials science at Stanford but failed to enroll. A BS artist with family money (emeral mining in South Africa) to throw around, invest and take over (PayPal, Tesla, SolarCity, SpaceX, Twitter, etc.). The cult worshipers give him far too much credit and myth somehow became "fact".

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Looks good, sounds awful. Perhaps we excuse that for a prototype, but how far before production were the Rivian prototypes in “A Long Way Up?” Those looked a lot closer to production quality than what Jay’s driving, and they proved it on a very arduous test.

I try not to suffer from the hangups that require me to dump on any car that’s not a Rivian and I wish these guys well. The VW backing has to be good for them, as it is for Rivian, and perhaps they’ll benefit from the joint venture, too. I do wonder, though, whether by the time this thing finally starts rolling out (and I’d be surprised if that’s before late ‘27), that some of the current EV limitations they’re designing around will have been addressed:
- More EV charging infrastructure everywhere
- Broader acceptance of EVs in general
- Greater battery capacity
- Cheaper batteries
- Faster charging
Is it totally unrealistic to expect a Gen 3 Rivian with 450 mile range and 800V architecture that can charge from 20-80% in 15 minutes, and half as many charging deserts in the lower 48 as we have today?

Again, good luck to Scout, but I think they might be applying the design constraints that are relevant in 2024, which may well have evaporated by the time the vehicle finally becomes widely available in 2028, if then.

What Leno drove are the functioning concept show cars. What Rivian had in "Long Way Up" were engineering prototypes. They did not have fully finished interior like a show car would. The gear whine and clunking heard from the Scouts are most likely from the differential gears in that solid rear axle. Remember, Scout's drivetrain concept isn't like Rivian's. They are more like 1970s traditional 4x4 truck/SUV, only driven by electric motors—sans solid axle at the front. This is their actual concept and hook. Listen to what is said, you can almost hear "make those old-fashioned trucks great again".

The approach Rivian took was completely different. Take full-on new EV platform, like those Tesla proved could work as everyday cars, but have electric motors for each of the four wheels, then apply that to a truck/SUV platform that can go off-pavement as well as it does on-pavement.

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