Unless R.J. is omniscient, the only thing he/Rivian can do is make up dates especially for those with windows two years down the road. Instead of getting offended think if you were working for Rivian trying to give out a window in Nov-Dec 2023 how many variables you had to work with to get it right and how confident you could be. I am not accusing anyone of lying. All I am saying is that it could only be a guess at best. Chill.They cannot make up dates with no confidence as a public company by law.
You can always say they all lie or make things up but it speaks to the integrity of the company. If that's the case, do you want to buy their products?
Actually I am perfectly OK with it. I would rather to have their best guess than my speculation. I am sure window get more accurate as you get closer to it.That would be a bad idea, likely illegal and really piss people off.
I'll take it whenever it's ready. I just need them to give me a couple weeks notice so I know I'm not traveling when they are delivering it.
I’m in the same boat with both Lightning and Rivian reservations. Frustrated at Fords lack of comms on official range and cost. Frustrated with both on potential build dates.They need to make up a date even if they have no confidence in it. Ford is suppose to open up the order books in January. That means folks putting deposit down for an estimated delivery date. I assume there is some overlap of reservation holders. I know I am one and having a date with Rivian will help in sticking around specially if it is not too far down the road.
Rivian is more than I was initially planning to pay and is more vehicle than I need but Ford salesmen are doing a great job selling Rivian products to me. At this point it is basically Rivian timing vs how much B.S. I can take from Ford dealers. It looks like picking an Explore package may not be great help with timing either. If both of them have significant delays, Cybertruck and Silverado may even come to play. What happened to the good old days that you liked a car and next day you were driving it?I’m in the same boat with both Lightning and Rivian reservations. Frustrated at Fords lack of comms on official range and cost. Frustrated with both on potential build dates.
Covid hysteria happened.Rivian is more than I was initially planning to pay and is more vehicle than I need but Ford salesmen are doing a great job selling Rivian products to me. At this point it is basically Rivian timing vs how much B.S. I can take from Ford dealers. It looks like picking an Explore package may not be great help with timing either. If both of them have significant delays, Cybertruck and Silverado may even come to play. What happened to the good old days that you liked a car and next day you were driving it?
I love the typical Rivian vaguery of "days away."When I spoke to them after Thanksgiving they said it was days away.... I would LOVE to know before Xmas.
They can't make money if they don't deliver no matter how many vehicles they build. There has been a lot of talk about potential customer pickup in Normal. If truck/driver availability continues to be a problem, could this be at least part of the solution?For what it's worth, the guide on my test drive today said he didn't think there was any way they would be giving out delivery dates before the end of the year. Most of the people doing the first mile drives were hired to do deliveries but there are no trucks to deliver so they are doing the in person test drives instead.
No I think you misunderstood. They don’t have any R1T trucks to deliver Because they aren’t building very many right now. They have a bunch of people hired to deliver to customers and no product to deliver.They can't make money if they don't deliver no matter how many vehicles they build. There has been a lot of talk about potential customer pickup in Normal. If truck/driver availability continues to be a problem, could this be at least part of the solution?
I did indeed misunderstand. I suppose my mind went that direction because they recently reported they built a couple more hundred trucks than they delivered. Hmmm......No I think you misunderstood. They don’t have any R1T trucks to deliver Because they aren’t building very many right now. They have a bunch of people hired to deliver to customers and no product to deliver.
That doesn't really line up with the numbers that were presented on the earnings call. If I remember there was a significant disparity between number of vehicles built compared with numbers delivered.No I think you misunderstood. They don’t have any R1T trucks to deliver Because they aren’t building very many right now. They have a bunch of people hired to deliver to customers and no product to deliver.