The Rivian R2 Reviews are Here!!! 656 HP, 609 lb-ft

[VSG]

I would assume that, all things being equal, Rivian would stick with what they’re familiar with.

I would assume that Rivian had taken what it learned over the past 5+ years and improved on the design, both for better performance and reduced costs. Like they have done with their motors ...

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[Golfer04]

The BMW estimate includes AWD and is more aerodynamic. No manufacturer subtracts range for cold etc. that is a known factor to take into account for buyers.
400 miles EPA can be compared with a vehicle with 300 mile EPA range and that 400 mile vehicle will have more range in the cold.

My point is until we get independent testing of the vehicles the claims don't mean much. I've owned three X5 (last one was a plug) and let's say lots of things they say don't happen. And if Rivian puts out a small vehicle that is less than 300 miles in RWD, AS tires, etc you aren't going very far if same car/battery has AT tires, AWD and cold weather (maybe 250). Throw in at best average dcfc charging and I can't believe the vehicle will sell. IMO, if 95kw is really the size they are making a mistake. But who knows.

 

[DuoRivian]

My point is until we get independent testing of the vehicles the claims don't mean much. I've owned three X5 (last one was a plug) and let's say lots of things they say don't happen. And if Rivian puts out a small vehicle that is less than 300 miles in RWD, AS tires, etc you aren't going very far if same car/battery has AT tires, AWD and cold weather (maybe 250). Throw in at best average dcfc charging and I can't believe the vehicle will sell. IMO, if 95kw is really the size they are making a mistake. But who knows.

There are official figures out and reviewers have tested the vehicle and backed up BMW. I would not say they are lying when there is no evidence nor past practice of falsifying data.

 

[NC-Rivian]

I would assume that Rivian had taken what it learned over the past 5+ years and improved on the design, both for better performance and reduced costs. Like they have done with their motors ...

Splendid! We’ll undoubtedly see 800v architecture, superior thermal control, and lucid-fast charging. Or .. not.

 

[Hillbilly]

Let's be honest though and acknowledge that "range" as it pertains to an EV is a nebulous concept that is highly interpretative. Every manufacturer uses different criteria for how they define it, and as long as the EPA estimate is in the same range as R1 I don't think it will affect sales.

I have been driving a Rivian for over 3 years and for that entire time my Rivian has had a "range" of over 300 miles. I can count on one finger the number of times that I've actually driven over 300 miles without charging.

I have to drive close to my limit a lot and even need to fast charge a bit a few times a month. Everyone's needs are different.

 

[Golfer04]

There are official figures out and reviewers have tested the vehicle and backed up BMW. I would not say they are lying when there is no evidence nor past practice of falsifying data.

I don't see any review on youtube testing the range. Lots of driving on the press day with no mention of efficiency or stops at chargers to verify dcfc speeds & curve. I'm not saying they are lying. I'm saying nobody has extensively independently tested their range & efficiency claims. If you have seen one please link.
They exaggerated the electric range of our X5 plug by 20 percent.

 

[Eric9610]

I don't see any review on youtube testing the range. Lots of driving on the press day with no mention of efficiency or stops at chargers to verify dcfc speeds & curve. I'm not saying they are lying. I'm saying nobody has extensively independently tested their range & efficiency claims. If you have seen one please link.
They exaggerated the electric range of our X5 plug by 20 percent.

BMW under rates all the cars... I have an i3 today and it hits or exceeds the claimed number in EV only mode. The i3 has a 42.2kWH pack and i get 180 miles of real range out of it. Much like Rivian they are very good at calculating range. If BMW is willing to claim 400 miles on non-official testing, I am sure they have exceeded it. They are very conservative when listing stats.

Something that also gets missed by a lot of people related to BMW is that they are on their 6th generation cell developed and manufactured in house. BMW has a whole separate division focused on batteries and drive units. They know a thing or 2 about batteries.

 

[renderpaz]

Have the trim levels posted earlier in this thread been debunked officially?

Total lolz at the idea they'd charge $14k for 20 kWh ($700/kWh!!). They currently charge $7k for 90 miles of range (~30kwh) for R1, makes sense, coming in at ~$230/kwh

Call me crazy but I don't think you should believe what you read on the internet... Let's turn on our brains for a minute...

Model Y Premium AWD is $49k. R2 long range AWD can and should be more expensive (larger, better materials, adventure features, etc). I expect $52k-$55k. This is a good price and people will pay it.

"Mac's are too expensive " -people since 1999. => Apple is a $4T company today. People want to pay more, they just want something for the extra cash. Rivian will give it to them.

 

[savethemanual]

BMW under rates all the cars... I have an i3 today and it hits or exceeds the claimed number in EV only mode. The i3 has a 42.2kWH pack and i get 180 miles of real range out of it. Much like Rivian they are very good at calculating range. If BMW is willing to claim 400 miles on non-official testing, I am sure they have exceeded it. They are very conservative when listing stats.

Truth. BMW has always sandbagged their numbers on ICE vehicles, most range tests on their EV's they have beaten the EPA numbers. I much prefer this marketing approach compared to those who are not being realistic with the numbers.

 

[blipit]

Have the trim levels posted earlier in this thread been debunked officially?

Total lolz at the idea they'd charge $14k for 20 kWh ($700/kWh!!). They currently charge $7k for 90 miles of range (~30kwh) for R1, makes sense, coming in at ~$230/kwh

Call me crazy but I don't think you should believe what you read on the internet... Let's turn on our brains for a minute...

They also charge $7000 from Large to Max pack...a whopping 10kwh. But using lower trim R1 Dual battery up charges doesn't take into account R2 RWD to Dual cost.

Regarding the R2(base vs lauch ed), you have to add in cost for another motor and everything that comes along with it. The $45k R2 is RWD and 75kwh standard pack.

 

[TRap015]

How is the charging time compared with MY?? I think the main comparison is going to be with MY, and I don’t think R2 is going to be more efficient than MY, so charging time is somewhat important for people without garage and home charging

sorry I didn’t read all of the post of someone asked already

 

[CrazyOne]

Have the trim levels posted earlier in this thread been debunked officially?

Total lolz at the idea they'd charge $14k for 20 kWh ($700/kWh!!). They currently charge $7k for 90 miles of range (~30kwh) for R1, makes sense, coming in at ~$230/kwh

Call me crazy but I don't think you should believe what you read on the internet... Let's turn on our brains for a minute...

Model Y Premium AWD is $49k. R2 long range AWD can and should be more expensive (larger, better materials, adventure features, etc). I expect $52k-$55k. This is a good price and people will pay it.

"Mac's are too expensive " -people since 1999. => Apple is a $4T company today. People want to pay more, they just want something for the extra cash. Rivian will give it to them.

Almost all of Apple's value is because of iPhone. Mac revenue is 33 billion out of 416 billion. Market share is about 17%

 

[renderpaz]

They also charge $7000 from Large to Max pack...a whopping 10kwh. But using lower trim R1 Dual battery up charges doesn't take into account R2 RWD to Dual cost.

Regarding the R2(base vs lauch ed), you have to add in cost for another motor and everything that comes along with it. The $45k R2 is RWD and 75kwh standard pack.

I don't know where this "10kwh" came from, I've heard the figure stated before, but on the R1T configurator that $7000 gets you 90 miles of EPA range (~60 real life) Maybe it was 10kwh while they phased out a larger large pack, but thats not 10 kWh today.

Additionally, I was indeed comparing dual to dual, the OP edited their price "guesses" significantly. See all the quoted posts to see the original prices I was "lolz"ing at

 

[TexasBob]

How is the charging time compared with MY?? I think the main comparison is going to be with MY, and I don’t think R2 is going to be more efficient than MY, so charging time is somewhat important for people without garage and home charging

sorry I didn’t read all of the post of someone asked already

The model Y starts with a much smaller battery (80 vs 95 on the AWD) which means an immediate 15% or 5 minute advantage. We will see but the 2026 model y awd 10% - 80% charge test was 27 - 30 minutes which is pretty meh. (BMW add the same amount of EPA range in 15 minutes whoosh.)

 

[savethemanual]

The model Y starts with a much smaller battery (80 vs 95 on the AWD) which means an immediate 15% or 5 minute advantage. We will see but the 2026 model y awd 10% - 80% charge test was 27 - 30 minutes which is pretty meh. (BMW add the same amount of EPA range in 15 minutes whoosh.)

I will say, with all of these comparisons....Tesla does sell a boat load of the MY/3 (even with competition closing in)! It seems many don't put such a high priority with DCFC numbers...I think it's more about the charging infrastructure.

R2 official specs will be released soooon, patience.

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