R2 Three Day Ownership Review. Comparison to R1T. Efficiency and Range data!

[Mos Eisley]

Wait, you mean the problem identified by a vendor to sell jack pucks was really just that he couldnt sell jack pucks?!?!??!?!?

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[SlaterGS]

There are lot's of new cars without adjustable headrests now

Reclining seat ≠ adjustable headrest
The post you quoted said "adjustable recline" on rear seats and you then state the front does not either which is 100% incorrect.
Simply correcting the bad information, though you are correct that the front headrests are not adjustable.

 

[17Palms]

Terrific write up! With this response I may not get the EX60.

 

[rvnxyz001]

Reclining seat ≠ adjustable headrest
The post you quoted said "adjustable recline" on rear seats and you then state the front does not either which is 100% incorrect.
Simply correcting the bad information, though you are correct that the front headrests are not adjustable.

Ah Okay, yes, I was talking about headrests. This was initially asked about rear seats.

 

[Gen(R3)Xer]

HVAC system was off. Gear Guard as we know it on R1 is not enabled yet on R2. Both vehicles NOT plugged into a level 2 charger.

Another data point. Last night the R2 was plugged into my cabin level 2. While parked in the garage over 12 hours it used 0.0 kwh as reported by the energy monitor.

Sounds good. I guess we’ll know once there’s an OTA update how much Gear Guard might pull. Hopefully they have a feature like Tesla where you can have it automatically deactivate at home or wherever you want. I have a camera facing the vehicle when I get home and don’t need a redundant recording that drains the battery faster. In public though (work, grocery store, etc.) I leave it on all the time. The Cabin Overheat Protection is set to 100 as well. Rivian has a similar feature don’t they? Just wondering. I’ll be a first time Rivian owner next Spring.

 

[SlaterGS]

Sounds good. I guess we’ll know once there’s an OTA update how much Gear Guard might pull. Hopefully they have a feature like Tesla where you can have it automatically deactivate at home or wherever you want. I have a camera facing the vehicle when I get home and don’t need a redundant recording that drains the battery faster. In public though (work, grocery store, etc.) I leave it on all the time. The Cabin Overheat Protection is set to 100 as well. Rivian has a similar feature don’t they? Just wondering. I’ll be a first time Rivian owner next Spring.

Gear Guard can already set to be deactivated at home on the R1S and R1T so I wouldn't expect them to remove that from the R2.
And yes on COP.

 

[Tony S]

Terrific write up! With this response I may not get the EX60.

I already decided to move from EX60 to R2. Will place order Nov-Dec period.

 

[SeaMonkey80]

We picked up our R2 on Monday the 29 from the Minneapolis service center.

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...orning-june-29-so-far-so-good-vin-1588.60782/

We now have 263 miles on it including the 165 mile home-to-cabin trip we do frequently for which I also have extensive R1T gen 1 and gen 2 efficiency data for.

A lot to cover here. I'll try to be brief and compartmentalized.

TLDR: It's an awesome vehicle. Very impressed and happy so far. Lives up to all the claims and hype.

This is exactly the kind of post we need on this forum, thank you for the very detailed and thorough review of the R2 (and all the extensive trip data)! I am now even more excited to get the R2. I can’t wait for my turn to come up in the next 2-4 weeks.

One point that I can confirm from your data is that I too saw a reduction in efficiency when I switched from the Pirellis to Michelin Defenders on my Dual Performance Max R1S (Gen 1). I am regretting that decision.

Also, I‘m glad to hear that we don’t need any jack pucks for lifting the R2. I know there is an adapter in the rear compartment. Have you seen or tried using that?

 

[tpberding]

Thank you for the very thoughtful and factual post. The one negative that stood out to me is exactly what I felt on my R2 test drive — the R2 seats are not as comfortable as my R1. I'm not sure why, but I think it has something to do with a difference in width — the R2 seats are narrower than the R1 seats. I struggled to find a good position on the test run.

 

[James Wong]

We picked up our R2 on Monday the 29 from the Minneapolis service center.

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...orning-june-29-so-far-so-good-vin-1588.60782/

We now have 263 miles on it including the 165 mile home-to-cabin trip we do frequently for which I also have extensive R1T gen 1 and gen 2 efficiency data for.

A lot to cover here. I'll try to be brief and compartmentalized.

TLDR: It's an awesome vehicle. Very impressed and happy so far. Lives up to all the claims and hype.


DELIVERY EXPERIENCE: This is our 3rd Rivan delivery and this one was just so-so. Delivery specialized was 15 minutes late then rushed a bit through our process as he had another delivery right after. These guys absolutely need to be smart phone specialists. Had some issues as we now have 2 Rivian and a shared Apple account between my wife and I. He had to some on the fly juggling but it all worked out.

FIT AND FINISH: I look hard, harder than I normally would, and cannot find any problems. I like the door handles much better than R1 because these (so far) don't have the squeak the R1's seem to have. The doors close and open better than R1.

R2 SOFTWARE MATURITY: We have 3 years of Rivian software experience so we know our way around it. R2 is a bit different than R1 so there is a bit of a learning curve. I poked around a lot in the software and have not identified any bugs or shortcoimings. Looking forward to the soon to be added pet mode though!

RIDE AND COMFORT: Quite good. Quiet and smooth. No wind noise. Seats are similar to R1 but not quite as comfortable. I was squirming a bit on our cabin trip this morning. Highway speed tracking was good, no tire balance issues or lane drift. Steering wheel alignment was good. No suspension rattles or creeks like R1.

CHARGING: At home no issues with a Grizzl-e charger and the Rivian Gear shop J-1772 to NACS converter. No fast charging yet.

HAPTIC WHEELS: Do basically the same functions as the 2-button 1-wheel setup on R1 but with one wheel. Nice but not revolutionary. As many have noted from test drives it seems hard to do a pull or push without a rotation but that does not seem to matter, the rotation is usually ignored. Seem tighter with a better feel than the test drive vehicle.

LIFT GATE AND FRUNK BUTTONS: Many (including us) experienced issues at first. But once we got the technique they work great. Put your finger on the button, give a quick press, remove finger. Do not let your finger linger, it won't do anything if you finger is still pushing the button.

R1 vs R2 SIZE. A few photo of the 2 vehicles with the back edges lined up.

R1T vs R2 FRUNK SIZE: Smaller than R1T for sure but I can still get my golf bag in there but I have to take my driver out and lay it atop the bag.

R2 Below

R2 CARGO SIZE: A true strength of this vehicle. Very spacious. I can get my large size frame mountain bike inside without removing a wheel.

CARGO AREA PROTECTION. I custom cut a piece of roofing membrane material to protect the floor. Cut slits to accommodate the 60/40 split so we can put a dog hammock on the 60 portion of the seating.

VAMPIRE DRAIN: Many, many threads on this forum about R1 vampire battery drain while parked. For 2 nights I left both our R1T and R2 unplugged in the garage over night with about 70% on the batteries. Using the "energy monitor" function on the software and looking at the "8 hour usage" screen I observed much less drain on the R2. The R1T had 0.9kwh and 0.8kwh those 2 nights. The R2 was 0.0 and 0.2 kwh. Encouraging.

EFFICENCY AND RANGE: Saved this for last as it takes the most explanation.

The short version; R2 is very efficiency and I achieved close to the Rivian stated range figures on our home-to-cabin run much as I did with the Gen 1 and Gen 2 R1Ts

The long version: We travel between our Minneapolis area home and our Hayward, WI area cabin very frequently, always taking the same route. I've recorded the efficiency reported by the vehicle many times. Today with the R2 is the 100th entry into the database so I have a very comprehensive dataset. Multiple vehicles, multiple configurations (bike racks, different tires, etc) across a temperature range from -10 to 90 deg F.

The route is about 40% interstate highway and 60% urban freeway and rural 55mph roads with multiple small towns to travel through. The trip is 165 miles and my average speed is around 54 mph. On this route I've basically achieved the Rivian/EPA stated range figures during the summer at temps around 75F.

My criteria for data recording. I only record the trip into the database if the wind is less than 10 mph, there is less than a 10deg temperature swing during the trip and if there is no abnormal traffic or construction delays. Many trips have not been included because of this criteria. In the winter I never intentionally precondition the battery nor pre-warm the cabin of the vehicle. The vehicle is in a garage hooked to a 40 amp Level 2 charger where a charging session would have been completed anywhere from 0 to 8 hour before departure.


EFFICIENCY GRAPH: Efficiency data including; R1T Gen 2 dual motor max pack with 3 different tires. A Volvo XC40 recharge which is the vehicle we traded in for this Rivian R2.

The R2 is the green data point. It is impressively efficient, better than the much smaller Volvo XC40. The red dots are the Michelin Defender tires I recently installed on my R1T. In retrospect I wish I had stayed the Pirelli all seasons but that's a story for another thread.

RANGE GRAPH: Assuming usable battery capacities of 141 kWh for the Gen 2 R1T, 78 kWh for the XC40 and 89 kWh for the R2 the full pack range figures are shown in the graph below. I get very close to the advertised range on this route we drive.

I feel I must make this disclaimer as somebody with chime in and ask questions or disagree: This is NOT an estimate of a highway range test, I do not claim and Rivian does not claim you will achieve the EPA range in highway driving. The EPA test is a mix if city and highway driving that just so happens to align well with this route I drive.

ANYTHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT OR ADDED TO THE R2: Cargo tie downs in the back cargo area....


ONE MORE THING. BOUNUS TOPIC ON LIFTING WITH A FLOOR JACK. A few weeks ago on this forum there was a thread about the jack points on the R2 and worries it was difficult to use, required special jack pucks and was downright unsafe. At the time I thought the whole thread was a nothing burger. I tried out my Husky floor jack this morning and yes, it was a big nothing burger. There is a nice rubber pad on the bottom of the vehicle frame. It is isolated enough and sticks out enough I could engage my floor jack with no issues. No jack puck required.

We picked up our R2 on Monday the 29 from the Minneapolis service center.

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...orning-june-29-so-far-so-good-vin-1588.60782/

We now have 263 miles on it including the 165 mile home-to-cabin trip we do frequently for which I also have extensive R1T gen 1 and gen 2 efficiency data for.

A lot to cover here. I'll try to be brief and compartmentalized.

TLDR: It's an awesome vehicle. Very impressed and happy so far. Lives up to all the claims and hype.


DELIVERY EXPERIENCE: This is our 3rd Rivan delivery and this one was just so-so. Delivery specialized was 15 minutes late then rushed a bit through our process as he had another delivery right after. These guys absolutely need to be smart phone specialists. Had some issues as we now have 2 Rivian and a shared Apple account between my wife and I. He had to some on the fly juggling but it all worked out.

FIT AND FINISH: I look hard, harder than I normally would, and cannot find any problems. I like the door handles much better than R1 because these (so far) don't have the squeak the R1's seem to have. The doors close and open better than R1.

R2 SOFTWARE MATURITY: We have 3 years of Rivian software experience so we know our way around it. R2 is a bit different than R1 so there is a bit of a learning curve. I poked around a lot in the software and have not identified any bugs or shortcoimings. Looking forward to the soon to be added pet mode though!

RIDE AND COMFORT: Quite good. Quiet and smooth. No wind noise. Seats are similar to R1 but not quite as comfortable. I was squirming a bit on our cabin trip this morning. Highway speed tracking was good, no tire balance issues or lane drift. Steering wheel alignment was good. No suspension rattles or creeks like R1.

CHARGING: At home no issues with a Grizzl-e charger and the Rivian Gear shop J-1772 to NACS converter. No fast charging yet.

HAPTIC WHEELS: Do basically the same functions as the 2-button 1-wheel setup on R1 but with one wheel. Nice but not revolutionary. As many have noted from test drives it seems hard to do a pull or push without a rotation but that does not seem to matter, the rotation is usually ignored. Seem tighter with a better feel than the test drive vehicle.

LIFT GATE AND FRUNK BUTTONS: Many (including us) experienced issues at first. But once we got the technique they work great. Put your finger on the button, give a quick press, remove finger. Do not let your finger linger, it won't do anything if you finger is still pushing the button.

R1 vs R2 SIZE. A few photo of the 2 vehicles with the back edges lined up.

R1T vs R2 FRUNK SIZE: Smaller than R1T for sure but I can still get my golf bag in there but I have to take my driver out and lay it atop the bag.

R2 Below

R2 CARGO SIZE: A true strength of this vehicle. Very spacious. I can get my large size frame mountain bike inside without removing a wheel.

CARGO AREA PROTECTION. I custom cut a piece of roofing membrane material to protect the floor. Cut slits to accommodate the 60/40 split so we can put a dog hammock on the 60 portion of the seating.

VAMPIRE DRAIN: Many, many threads on this forum about R1 vampire battery drain while parked. For 2 nights I left both our R1T and R2 unplugged in the garage over night with about 70% on the batteries. Using the "energy monitor" function on the software and looking at the "8 hour usage" screen I observed much less drain on the R2. The R1T had 0.9kwh and 0.8kwh those 2 nights. The R2 was 0.0 and 0.2 kwh. Encouraging.

EFFICENCY AND RANGE: Saved this for last as it takes the most explanation.

The short version; R2 is very efficiency and I achieved close to the Rivian stated range figures on our home-to-cabin run much as I did with the Gen 1 and Gen 2 R1Ts

The long version: We travel between our Minneapolis area home and our Hayward, WI area cabin very frequently, always taking the same route. I've recorded the efficiency reported by the vehicle many times. Today with the R2 is the 100th entry into the database so I have a very comprehensive dataset. Multiple vehicles, multiple configurations (bike racks, different tires, etc) across a temperature range from -10 to 90 deg F.

The route is about 40% interstate highway and 60% urban freeway and rural 55mph roads with multiple small towns to travel through. The trip is 165 miles and my average speed is around 54 mph. On this route I've basically achieved the Rivian/EPA stated range figures during the summer at temps around 75F.

My criteria for data recording. I only record the trip into the database if the wind is less than 10 mph, there is less than a 10deg temperature swing during the trip and if there is no abnormal traffic or construction delays. Many trips have not been included because of this criteria. In the winter I never intentionally precondition the battery nor pre-warm the cabin of the vehicle. The vehicle is in a garage hooked to a 40 amp Level 2 charger where a charging session would have been completed anywhere from 0 to 8 hour before departure.


EFFICIENCY GRAPH: Efficiency data including; R1T Gen 2 dual motor max pack with 3 different tires. A Volvo XC40 recharge which is the vehicle we traded in for this Rivian R2.

The R2 is the green data point. It is impressively efficient, better than the much smaller Volvo XC40. The red dots are the Michelin Defender tires I recently installed on my R1T. In retrospect I wish I had stayed the Pirelli all seasons but that's a story for another thread.

RANGE GRAPH: Assuming usable battery capacities of 141 kWh for the Gen 2 R1T, 78 kWh for the XC40 and 89 kWh for the R2 the full pack range figures are shown in the graph below. I get very close to the advertised range on this route we drive.

I feel I must make this disclaimer as somebody with chime in and ask questions or disagree: This is NOT an estimate of a highway range test, I do not claim and Rivian does not claim you will achieve the EPA range in highway driving. The EPA test is a mix if city and highway driving that just so happens to align well with this route I drive.

ANYTHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT OR ADDED TO THE R2: Cargo tie downs in the back cargo area....


ONE MORE THING. BOUNUS TOPIC ON LIFTING WITH A FLOOR JACK. A few weeks ago on this forum there was a thread about the jack points on the R2 and worries it was difficult to use, required special jack pucks and was downright unsafe. At the time I thought the whole thread was a nothing burger. I tried out my Husky floor jack this morning and yes, it was a big nothing burger. There is a nice rubber pad on the bottom of the vehicle frame. It is isolated enough and sticks out enough I could engage my floor jack with no issues. No jack puck required.

Thanks Rick for the impressive write-up. Really appreciated.
I owned the 1st Gen. Model S for twelve years and even without any camers, the driving is incredibly excellent. I'm currently leasing the ZDX EV. Other than the riding comfort, there are not too much to talk about.

 

[James Wong]

We picked up our R2 on Monday the 29 from the Minneapolis service center.

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...orning-june-29-so-far-so-good-vin-1588.60782/

We now have 263 miles on it including the 165 mile home-to-cabin trip we do frequently for which I also have extensive R1T gen 1 and gen 2 efficiency data for.

A lot to cover here. I'll try to be brief and compartmentalized.

TLDR: It's an awesome vehicle. Very impressed and happy so far. Lives up to all the claims and hype.


DELIVERY EXPERIENCE: This is our 3rd Rivan delivery and this one was just so-so. Delivery specialized was 15 minutes late then rushed a bit through our process as he had another delivery right after. These guys absolutely need to be smart phone specialists. Had some issues as we now have 2 Rivian and a shared Apple account between my wife and I. He had to some on the fly juggling but it all worked out.

FIT AND FINISH: I look hard, harder than I normally would, and cannot find any problems. I like the door handles much better than R1 because these (so far) don't have the squeak the R1's seem to have. The doors close and open better than R1.

R2 SOFTWARE MATURITY: We have 3 years of Rivian software experience so we know our way around it. R2 is a bit different than R1 so there is a bit of a learning curve. I poked around a lot in the software and have not identified any bugs or shortcoimings. Looking forward to the soon to be added pet mode though!

RIDE AND COMFORT: Quite good. Quiet and smooth. No wind noise. Seats are similar to R1 but not quite as comfortable. I was squirming a bit on our cabin trip this morning. Highway speed tracking was good, no tire balance issues or lane drift. Steering wheel alignment was good. No suspension rattles or creeks like R1.

CHARGING: At home no issues with a Grizzl-e charger and the Rivian Gear shop J-1772 to NACS converter. No fast charging yet.

HAPTIC WHEELS: Do basically the same functions as the 2-button 1-wheel setup on R1 but with one wheel. Nice but not revolutionary. As many have noted from test drives it seems hard to do a pull or push without a rotation but that does not seem to matter, the rotation is usually ignored. Seem tighter with a better feel than the test drive vehicle.

LIFT GATE AND FRUNK BUTTONS: Many (including us) experienced issues at first. But once we got the technique they work great. Put your finger on the button, give a quick press, remove finger. Do not let your finger linger, it won't do anything if you finger is still pushing the button.

R1 vs R2 SIZE. A few photo of the 2 vehicles with the back edges lined up.

R1T vs R2 FRUNK SIZE: Smaller than R1T for sure but I can still get my golf bag in there but I have to take my driver out and lay it atop the bag.

R2 Below

R2 CARGO SIZE: A true strength of this vehicle. Very spacious. I can get my large size frame mountain bike inside without removing a wheel.

CARGO AREA PROTECTION. I custom cut a piece of roofing membrane material to protect the floor. Cut slits to accommodate the 60/40 split so we can put a dog hammock on the 60 portion of the seating.

VAMPIRE DRAIN: Many, many threads on this forum about R1 vampire battery drain while parked. For 2 nights I left both our R1T and R2 unplugged in the garage over night with about 70% on the batteries. Using the "energy monitor" function on the software and looking at the "8 hour usage" screen I observed much less drain on the R2. The R1T had 0.9kwh and 0.8kwh those 2 nights. The R2 was 0.0 and 0.2 kwh. Encouraging.

EFFICENCY AND RANGE: Saved this for last as it takes the most explanation.

The short version; R2 is very efficiency and I achieved close to the Rivian stated range figures on our home-to-cabin run much as I did with the Gen 1 and Gen 2 R1Ts

The long version: We travel between our Minneapolis area home and our Hayward, WI area cabin very frequently, always taking the same route. I've recorded the efficiency reported by the vehicle many times. Today with the R2 is the 100th entry into the database so I have a very comprehensive dataset. Multiple vehicles, multiple configurations (bike racks, different tires, etc) across a temperature range from -10 to 90 deg F.

The route is about 40% interstate highway and 60% urban freeway and rural 55mph roads with multiple small towns to travel through. The trip is 165 miles and my average speed is around 54 mph. On this route I've basically achieved the Rivian/EPA stated range figures during the summer at temps around 75F.

My criteria for data recording. I only record the trip into the database if the wind is less than 10 mph, there is less than a 10deg temperature swing during the trip and if there is no abnormal traffic or construction delays. Many trips have not been included because of this criteria. In the winter I never intentionally precondition the battery nor pre-warm the cabin of the vehicle. The vehicle is in a garage hooked to a 40 amp Level 2 charger where a charging session would have been completed anywhere from 0 to 8 hour before departure.


EFFICIENCY GRAPH: Efficiency data including; R1T Gen 2 dual motor max pack with 3 different tires. A Volvo XC40 recharge which is the vehicle we traded in for this Rivian R2.

The R2 is the green data point. It is impressively efficient, better than the much smaller Volvo XC40. The red dots are the Michelin Defender tires I recently installed on my R1T. In retrospect I wish I had stayed the Pirelli all seasons but that's a story for another thread.

RANGE GRAPH: Assuming usable battery capacities of 141 kWh for the Gen 2 R1T, 78 kWh for the XC40 and 89 kWh for the R2 the full pack range figures are shown in the graph below. I get very close to the advertised range on this route we drive.

I feel I must make this disclaimer as somebody with chime in and ask questions or disagree: This is NOT an estimate of a highway range test, I do not claim and Rivian does not claim you will achieve the EPA range in highway driving. The EPA test is a mix if city and highway driving that just so happens to align well with this route I drive.

ANYTHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT OR ADDED TO THE R2: Cargo tie downs in the back cargo area....


ONE MORE THING. BOUNUS TOPIC ON LIFTING WITH A FLOOR JACK. A few weeks ago on this forum there was a thread about the jack points on the R2 and worries it was difficult to use, required special jack pucks and was downright unsafe. At the time I thought the whole thread was a nothing burger. I tried out my Husky floor jack this morning and yes, it was a big nothing burger. There is a nice rubber pad on the bottom of the vehicle frame. It is isolated enough and sticks out enough I could engage my floor jack with no issues. No jack puck required.

Thanks, Rick, for the impressive write-up. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.
I owned the first-generation Tesla Model S for 12 years. Even without today's advanced camera system, it was an incredibly enjoyable car to drive. I'm currently leasing an Acura ZDX EV. Other than its comfortable ride, there isn't much else that really stands out to me.
My lease is up next year, and I plan to purchase a new EV in the first quarter of 2027. Right now, I'm trying to decide between the R2 and the refreshed Model Y.
Here are a few things I really like about the R2:
* I'm a golfer, so seeing that a golf bag fits in the frunk is very impressive. I often travel with my golf buddies, and we've always struggled to fit four golf bags in the cargo area.
* I don't go off-road, along with my days of spirited driving are behind me, so I plan to wait for the Premium trim with its hopefully softer ride.
* I'm hoping R2 Autonomy + Supervised will mature quickly and eventually offer the point-to-point experience similar to Tesla's current FSD.
* I test drove the R2 Performance for about 30 minutes, which wasn't enough time to explore all the features I wanted. At this point, I'd rate my experience as good, but not outstanding. I plan to return for another test drive once the Premium trim is available.
* I'm really hoping the Premium trim will include Vehicle-to-Home (V2H) capability, as that's one of the features I value most.
It'll be interesting to see how both vehicles evolve over the next several months before I make my decision.

 

[Mikey]

I just looked again at the screenshot of the 0.2 kWh energy use on the R2. It’s during the 5:00 to 5:30 time segment which is when I opened the door to look at the screen so maybe that 0.2 came from me waking it up. Tempted to say it’s actually 0.0 drain….

I was wondering if it might be because sentry mode, dog mode and other parasitic apps are not yet installed? Thanks for all the information.

 

[r2fb]

* I'm hoping R2 Autonomy + Supervised will mature quickly and eventually offer the point-to-point experience similar to Tesla's current FSD.

That is not happening anytime soon. It took Tesla itself 10 years. If you're not satisfied with Lane Keep and Adaptive Cruise (and hopefully it stays on when you want to do an overtake), you shouldn't really consider the R2.

 

[defcon888]

This is an amazing write up.

Your R1T is the same colors as ours. We have a Gen1 Quad.
We test drove the Performance edition which I believe is a quad motor and the "giddy up and go" was pretty impressive.....not 2.9 seconds to 60 impressive os our Quad, but very good.

We are definately getting the R2 and trading our R1T.......we have good reasons as to why......#1.....wife is 5' 1" and has a hard time getting groceries out of the truck bed and it rides really high for her.....I don't care one way or another....because I am 6' 2".

We got R1T thinking we would utilize the truck bed more and that hasn't been the case. Also, we have the manual tonneau cover and it is a pain to have to remove each slat to utilize the whole bed. We don't want to invest the $3,000+ to get an electric one.

We have a Rav4 Prime plugin that we love as well and that is what we tow with if need be.


Thanks again for the great write up!

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