2023.46 Lane Change Characteristics

[MrMusAddict]

From your video it seems the left turn signal did not auto-cancel till Driver+ was activated. The signal should have auto-canceled when the car's right side crossed the right lane marker

The blinker cancels when Driver+ deems that the lane change has fully completed. This seems to be intended behavior, because someone could change more than one lane at a time. If the blinker canceled after the right side of the vehicle crossed the right lane marker, but the driver intended to change another lane, that would be a bigger issue.

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From your video it seems the left turn signal did not auto-cancel till Driver+ was activated. The signal should have auto-canceled when the car's right side crossed the right lane marker

No it shouldn't.

I shouldn't cancel the signal until it is confident you aren't going to keep going. If I need to get across 4 lanes of traffic I don't want to have to re-engage the signal 4x.

I would rather have to manually disengage the signal when I am done like I have done in every other car since forever than have it canceling the signal over and over when I am not done turning yet.

 

[camaroz1985]

Definitely better, but I hate that it still beeps. At least we lose the one beep from the deactivation.

 

[spacefunkey]

No it shouldn't.

I shouldn't cancel the signal until it is confident you aren't going to keep going. If I need to get across 4 lanes of traffic I don't want to have to re-engage the signal 4x.

I would rather have to manually disengage the signal when I am done like I have done in every other car since forever than have it canceling the signal over and over when I am not done turning yet.

The auto-cancel feature per lane change is a feature that was also introduced in Tesla and it works for single lane changes unless you move over to a left only or right only lane, where it stays on. Changing multiple lanes in one shot may not be a default situation intent in the software.

 

[waitingonanr1s]

From your video it seems the left turn signal did not auto-cancel till Driver+ was activated. The signal should have auto-canceled when the car's right side crossed the right lane marker

That's how Genesis/Hyundai's auto lane change system does it too (where equipped - they cut it out of some 2023 models due to chip shortage). It doesn't turn off until you're locked in the new lane. Of course it actually makes the lane change for you - all you do is turn on your signal.

 

[KBabione]

• Driver+ will NOT reengage until you've safely slowed into the middle of your desired lane. This means that if you want, you can merge 4 lanes in one motion, and it won't reengage until you've slowed into the middle of the 4th lane.

I was a little concerned with your use of the word "slowed" - afraid that I would have to change speeds for it to pickup Driver+ again, but your video was perfect in explaining it. I can't wait to have this feature!

 

[SRO]

Definitely better, but I hate that it still beeps. At least we lose the one beep from the deactivation.

I think It needs to beep so you know it has reengaged without looking at the screen.

 

[SSteveEV]

Could someone test this scenario please?

You are driving 70 mph. You begin approaching a vehicle in your lane that is going around 60 and Rivian begins slowing down. You signal left to move to the left lane and then steer to the left lane.

The question is this: How response is the system to resuming to you set cruise speed (70 in this case).

My biggest frustration with the Rivian is that it is far to slow to speed back up to set speed. The more traffic there is the less useful the Rivian cruise is due to ongoing merges.

Our old Subaru Outback does this incredibly well.

Thank you! Came here to ask the same but would have worded it worse.
My 2014 wagon speeds up as soon as you signal the lane change and it's the best feature.

 

[JMACCA]

Hey everyone,

Just got 2023.46 installed. Here are the characteristics of the new feature;

• New lane change visualizations
  • When you turn on your blinker, your current lane will remain highlighted blue
  • When you begin to move the steering wheel, the blue lane will shrink to a rectangle surrounding your vehicle with an arrow pointing in the direction of your merge.
• The steering wheel BARELY resists a lane change now (used to need to forcefully disengage, but now it holds it just enough to keep your lane until you actually start to move over)
• Driver+ will NOT reengage until you've safely slowed into the middle of your desired lane. This means that if you want, you can merge 4 lanes in one motion, and it won't reengage until you've slowed into the middle of the 4th lane.
• Once you're centered, you'll here 2 chimes instead of 3, signaling that auto-steer has reengaged, and the lane goes blue again.

Here's video of me testing the feature, and inadvertently learning about that third bullet point by careening towards the median ?

Great description and video....love the driver assist

 

[SRO]

Hey everyone,

Just got 2023.46 installed. Here are the characteristics of the new feature;

• New lane change visualizations
  • When you turn on your blinker, your current lane will remain highlighted blue
  • When you begin to move the steering wheel, the blue lane will shrink to a rectangle surrounding your vehicle with an arrow pointing in the direction of your merge.
• The steering wheel BARELY resists a lane change now (used to need to forcefully disengage, but now it holds it just enough to keep your lane until you actually start to move over)
• Driver+ will NOT reengage until you've safely slowed into the middle of your desired lane. This means that if you want, you can merge 4 lanes in one motion, and it won't reengage until you've slowed into the middle of the 4th lane.
• Once you're centered, you'll here 2 chimes instead of 3, signaling that auto-steer has reengaged, and the lane goes blue again.

Here's video of me testing the feature, and inadvertently learning about that third bullet point by careening towards the median ?

I assume the slowing up part is if you accelerated into the new lane. Otherwise the cruise control keeps you at the set speed during the process.

 

[MrMusAddict]

I assume the slowing up part is if you accelerated into the new lane. Otherwise the cruise control keeps you at the set speed during the process.

Sorry, to clarify, the "slowing" I'm referring to is the side-to-side motion. As in, if you're moving left or right too quickly, it will not lock you into the lane. So you have to "slow" and settle into the middle of the lane before Driver+ is confident you've completed your lane change.

This seems to be intended behavior because someone may change multiple lanes at once.

 

[MrMusAddict]

Could someone test this scenario please?

You are driving 70 mph. You begin approaching a vehicle in your lane that is going around 60 and Rivian begins slowing down. You signal left to move to the left lane and then steer to the left lane.

The question is this: How response is the system to resuming to you set cruise speed (70 in this case).

My biggest frustration with the Rivian is that it is far to slow to speed back up to set speed. The more traffic there is the less useful the Rivian cruise is due to ongoing merges.

Our old Subaru Outback does this incredibly well.

Tested this twice on my drive this evening. In both cases, the slow vehicle in front of me was considered in "my lane" until I had completely crossed over the lane line (before the maneuver completed and auto-steer resumed).

As a result, it continued to slow as I was entering the new lane, and continued to slow until my right wheels had crossed left-side of the right lane line. At that point, it started accelerating at it's usual pace.

 

[Ralph]

Tested this twice on my drive this evening. In both cases, the slow vehicle in front of me was considered in "my lane" until I had completely crossed over the lane line (before the maneuver completed and auto-steer resumed).

As a result, it continued to slow as I was entering the new lane, and continued to slow until my right wheels had crossed left-side of the right lane line. At that point, it started accelerating at it's usual pace.

Thanks for testing and replying. My issue has been related to how fast does it "started accelerating at it's usual pace."

For me it has been far to slow. Yes, you can manually accelerate to get it back up to speed quicker, for example when merging. But so many other cars you can simply steer from lane to lane and the the cruise will manage speed.

 

[Smeek]

a welcomed addition but why is Rivian so insistent on these loud alerts when doing anything with driver+?

it is really not necessary for everyone in the car to know what’s going on.

does anyone at rivian drive with a sleeping child in the car??

 

[Smeek]

I think It needs to beep so you know it has reengaged without looking at the screen.

better accomplished with a steering wheel vibration pattern distinct from the lane keep one. it’s just so loud and unnecessary.

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