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Hi everyone, completely new to Rivian. I’m looking to buy an R1T as a secondary vehicle to haul my motorcycle to track days or head up to Tahoe for snowboarding or travels with family where I can bring a motorcycle along.

As many pointed out already, Rivian has done early summer model year cutovers, so @Bop question is very valid.

My rationale: To reduce supply chain complexity, it makes sense for Rivian to drop the R2's haptic steering wheel into the R1 lineup soon, especially since they already share the same Gen 2 underlying compute and zonal architecture. It seems like an easy parts-bin win for a mild 2027 refresh before a true "Gen 3" overhaul down the road I 2028. 2025 summer saw NACS ports added for early 2026 model release.

Am I crazy to hold off a bit to see if the 2027 drops with the R2 wheel, or should I just pull the trigger on a 2026 now?

I have ruled out used Gen1 due to not having full autonomy in future...and then I like the NACS port idea which bings me to 2026 but it feels like a mild updated 2027 is easily possible at minimum steering wheel and software and done?
I would hold out if I were in your position.

You are not in a hurry. You can wait. And while I don't think 2027 is going to bring any significant changes, you might be right about the steering wheel. And there might be some other nice improvements to take advantage of.

So if you can wait, you should. It won't be long. I expect the new model will be revealed within the next month or two.
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@Bop are you waiting or talking the plunge now? @mkhuffman you may be right about a update in a month or two but incentives will go too..

I am tempted by the forest edge package but some reason it is not letting me have that and 1.9% APR - dont see things being excluded
https://rivian.com/offers/my-26-199-apr-offer-june-2026 even though the language here doesnt exclude it
 

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@Bop are you waiting or talking the plunge now? @mkhuffman you may be right about a update in a month or two but incentives will go too..

I am tempted by the forest edge package but some reason it is not letting me have that and 1.9% APR - dont see things being excluded
https://rivian.com/offers/my-26-199-apr-offer-june-2026 even though the language here doesnt exclude it
I am same position. I was looking at R2, but seems like a horizontal vehicle change from Model Y. Same range, SUV crossover, etc. So I really was thinking about the R1T. I have always wanted one, and they have that 1.99% APR. But I run into the forest package not falling in line with "the deal". Might need to get someone to over ride something to allow the correct APR

But i want to hold out to see what 2027 brings. A change in the wheel doesn't interest me much. The big wheels were "neet" but in use it is easier to misc-lick. If i got a 2026, then 2027 put the NACS in the correct spot on vehicle. Passenger Front, or Driver Rear. I would be upset about getting 2026 then.
I am at least waiting for July, to see if they drop a new deal.
 
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I am same position. I was looking at R2, but seems like a horizontal vehicle change from Model Y. Same range, SUV crossover, etc. So I really was thinking about the R1T. I have always wanted one, and they have that 1.99% APR. But I run into the forest package not falling in line with "the deal". Might need to get someone to over ride something to allow the correct APR

But i want to hold out to see what 2027 brings. A change in the wheel doesn't interest me much. The big wheels were "neet" but in use it is easier to misc-lick. If i got a 2026, then 2027 put the NACS in the correct spot on vehicle. Passenger Front, or Driver Rear. I would be upset about getting 2026 then.
I am at least waiting for July, to see if they drop a new deal.
Well the deals aren't getting better … the $7k forest edge on R1t is gone… so I am guessing deals as indicator of new vehicle coming isn’t showing promise

i would think for supply chain sakes, they may change “steering wheel ” to R2 style, and may be under the hood improvements shown on R2 gen electronics trickle in before any main items like lessons learned in building r2 motor, battery pack to make its way..


my hypothesi is minor tech refresh before platform changes
 

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Due to the heavy lift of ramping R2 production I expect 2027 R1 to be exactly like 2026 R1 from a hardware perspective. Maybe there will be some minor enhancements, or some cosmetic changes, but those would be a bonus.
 

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Rivian just got certification from the EPA on the 2027 R1 vehicles on Tuesday. I expect we're going to get more information on them s00n. Only "new" info from just this info dump is they are changing trim levels to be Premium/Premium Long Range/Performance/Quad to vibe better with the R2 naming.
 

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Well the deals aren't getting better … the $7k forest edge on R1t is gone… so I am guessing deals as indicator of new vehicle coming isn’t showing promise
Incorrect - this Forest Edge package was always a limited time thing. Stated right from it's introduction a month or so go.
 

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Maybe they will pull battery tech from R2. So a max pack on a R1T might actually be better, and worth the extra cost.
 

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With used prices so obscene across all trims and new incentives not so great and 2027 will be different in some meaningful way - seems like a bad time.. I wish I had moved on some deals earlier in the year
 

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Hi everyone, completely new to Rivian. I’m looking to buy an R1T as a secondary vehicle to haul my motorcycle to track days or head up to Tahoe for snowboarding or travels with family where I can bring a motorcycle along.

As many pointed out already, Rivian has done early summer model year cutovers, so @Bop question is very valid.

My rationale: To reduce supply chain complexity, it makes sense for Rivian to drop the R2's haptic steering wheel into the R1 lineup soon, especially since they already share the same Gen 2 underlying compute and zonal architecture. It seems like an easy parts-bin win for a mild 2027 refresh before a true "Gen 3" overhaul down the road I 2028. 2025 summer saw NACS ports added for early 2026 model release.

Am I crazy to hold off a bit to see if the 2027 drops with the R2 wheel, or should I just pull the trigger on a 2026 now?

I have ruled out used Gen1 due to not having full autonomy in future...and then I like the NACS port idea which bings me to 2026 but it feels like a mild updated 2027 is easily possible at minimum steering wheel and software and done?
The biggest flaw in your logic is thinking the R1T will be your secondary vehicle. As soon as you put a few miles on it, it will quickly become your daily :) Well, maybe not after seeing your lineup. Impressive cars all around!
 

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Maybe they will pull battery tech from R2. So a max pack on a R1T might actually be better, and worth the extra cost.
It would make sense for them to pivot to the same LG 4695 and enjoy economy of scale savings. But, can LG’s new US plant deliver the volume?
 

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The biggest flaw in your logic is thinking the R1T will be your secondary vehicle. As soon as you put a few miles on it, it will quickly become your daily :) Well, maybe not after seeing your lineup. Impressive cars all around!
I fully understand your point…. agree it will be true for most…

I am a motorcycle and car enthusiast who value driving experience…. I have driven a Riviamn R1T for couple of times on extended driving sessions back to back against my own comparable cars. It is good but bot anywhere close what I enjoy.

My daily is a 991.2 Porsche 911 7 sped manual or BMW E60 M5 6sp manual - I have only owned manual cars as a daily. My family driver is a Porsche Cayenne GTS (which out handles the M5) that is nicely equipped… the driving dynamics of these cars are completely different league as they need to be by design and physics.

Anyone that thinks rivian rides well should try a well suspended (steel or air) Porsche and you are in for a surprise… the calibration on a modern air suspended Porsche Cayenne is as good as it will get at any price… Goldilocks zone from comfort to stupid almost track level performance… out of box… Porsche are the masters .. and I get to drive lot of fancy cars thanks to some freinds… drive a base macan Ev and you will understand dynamics are different league than comparable R2 - but a Porsche EV will suck in software experience compared to rivian

I am not dissing on Rivian, I will be buying one…. It may replace my cayenne for some errands or family trips may be… I genuinely like the company want it succeed amidst many American EV failures (like struggling Lucid)…. I love the design, the ambition of the company with their own software /hardware stack…better taste than tesla …. And i have never wanted a truck ever till I test drove Rivian… also what they are doing with R2 etc… so much to love about the company… but I have much lower expectations when it comes to finish, material and ride quality - if they meet my lower expectations and compensate with good software defined vehicle, I will be happy.

i just came back from Goodwood festival of speed where I got private presentation of Ferarri Luce (better in person than photos, but interior tactility and surfaces better than even the nicest Ferraris I have been in), and also got personal tours Rivard of BYD, Denza(their premium), and Yangwany u9(fastest car in the world) - they are not messing around… finish quality and capability on paper is crazy amazing….

Unfortunately, I don't see any alternatives besides a R1T for well executed EV pick up with built int tonneau cover… . Another option I am considering is given up spending so much for a car that will not be my daily to a cheater ford maverick lobo and make it pure utility for track days, motorcycle hauling and ski season trips
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