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evilyn
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The amusing part is that people who “leverage AI all day every day” should, of all people, understand that results depend heavily on the model, task, prompt, context, and tools available. Declaring “ChatGPT is garbage” is a bit like announcing, “Computers are terrible. I use good computers.”
SwampNut
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No, it's THAT computer is terrible, so use good computers.
You showed us again how terrible it is and how people should not rely on it.
Long ago, I got a pager, and read the manual. On the first page, in huge letters, it said: WARNING! DO NOT EAT THE BATTERY DOOR.
Have you read the manual yet?
You showed us again how terrible it is and how people should not rely on it.
Long ago, I got a pager, and read the manual. On the first page, in huge letters, it said: WARNING! DO NOT EAT THE BATTERY DOOR.
Have you read the manual yet?
Mos Eisley
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Not hostile to AI, I use it. But in this case it’s wrong and simply using ctl-f in the pdf version of the manual can find you the answer in a jiffy.I’ve been driving for about 40 years and somehow managed to survive without ever reading a car manual cover to cover. I’m not planning to start now, especially since my eyesight has declined at roughly the same rate that owner’s manuals have increased in page count.
That’s one of the reasons tools like AI exist: I can ask a very specific question, have it search 400 pages of warnings about not drinking battery coolant, and point me to the three paragraphs that might actually matter.
I’m also a little puzzled by the hostility toward AI. Yes, it can make mistakes. So can humans. In fact, after spending enough time on Internet forums, I’m beginning to suspect humans may have pioneered the technology.
My current working theory is that people who think AI is stupid should probably use it more. There is a non-zero chance they may eventually discover which participant in the conversation is actually doing the heavy lifting.
Anyway, after reading the whole thread I'm back to square one: I have to try that myself while driving to figure out whether and when it works.
Millbarge
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So how did you survive before the internet and AI, having others spoon-feed you answers instead of looking them up yourself with the book sitting right in your glove box?
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Obviously, one user is completely dependent on AI and that's how they function. The other understands the limitations and has gripes with certain AI tools, but also knows this can be solved with a quick human review... but that's just not an option for the AI-dependent person. We live in an interesting time...
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So you want someone here to read it for you and explain it to you?
No one said read the entire manual. How about look at the table of contents then go straight to the right page? Maybe ask your AI what the right page is?
Or here's a thought, ask your AI to search this forum, because chances are that any question you have has already been answered by dozens of helpful community members.
evilyn
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That wasn't really the question. AI couldn't give a definitive answer because the manual has gaps and inconsistencies. The question was about user experience what the car does and doesn't do in real driving. And instead of providing feedback, several people started BSing about RTFM. And it only went downhill after that.
Sure, AI did that and didn't find anything useful to report. I start understanding why
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The dependency on AI is crazy. There's the whole argument that the most powerful people in the world are now the companies that run the AI. Without it, some people literally cannot do anything.
UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan
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So despite ChatGPT being wrong you still insist your approach to easily solved problem is still sound? I hope your logic and approach to your work is better than this. If you knew all there is to know already and don’t accept answers/help, why ask for it? It just doesn’t compute.
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evilyn
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"despite ChatGPT being wrong" -- where was it wrong? People were, ChatGPT wasn't, and in fact it was as useful as it could be. What ChatGPT can't do is to take a car for a ride and see what the car is and isn't doing. That's what people here are supposed to know, but apparently nobody does, instead, they are filling a long thread with ignorant rants about AI.
UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan
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"despite ChatGPT being wrong" -- where was it wrong? People were, ChatGPT wasn't, and in fact it was as useful as it could be. What ChatGPT can't do is to take a car for a ride and see what the car is and isn't doing. That's what people here are supposed to know, but apparently nobody does, instead, they are filling a long thread with ignorant rants about AI.
Ya just can't fix stupid. Have fun shouting into ether.
Dark-Fx
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And ignorant rants driven by AI."despite ChatGPT being wrong" -- where was it wrong? People were, ChatGPT wasn't, and in fact it was as useful as it could be. What ChatGPT can't do is to take a car for a ride and see what the car is and isn't doing. That's what people here are supposed to know, but apparently nobody does, instead, they are filling a long thread with ignorant rants about AI.
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