Finding a Hotel with a Charger

[NorthernOak]

Does this mean, with this product, I can charge a non-Tesla (Rivian for example) at a Tesla supercharger?

No, you cannot. Directly from product page:

There is no adapter that will allow you to charge a non Tesla at a Tesla Supercharger. If/When one is ever made, it will come directly from Tesla.

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[140 degrees]

Sorry, new to EVs and a dumb question.

Does this mean, with this product, I can charge a non-Tesla (Rivian for example) at a Tesla supercharger?

Tesla might open up their superchargers (DC fast charging) to non-Tesla vehicles in the future. They have already done this to a very limited extent in Europe. The adapters being discussed here are for level 2 chargers. These are the type of slow chargers that get installed for free use at hotels, shopping centers, etc. Perfect for overnight at a hotel!

 

[crashmtb]

Along this same line, EV charging at RV Parks is going to be a thing in the near future. RV Parks have the advantage of 30 and 50 amp outlets at each campsite. I'm sure that RV Park operators will start a surcharge for EV charging at your campsite. The advantage here is that each campsite has its own outlets so you don't have to compete for an outlet. You can just stay plugged-in overnight with no problem.

Brian

This has been a thing for going on 15+ years, as RV parks were really one of the only options for reasonably quick charging near highways.

It will be interesting to see if campground operators will start charging supplemental fees for EV charging at hookup equipped sites. I doubt itm since the cost of providing power to sites is already part of their operating costs.

 

[User433]

FYI - You can't pull out a charger from Rivian while the vehicle is locked. Not sure if this is common, but makes sense. Otherwise, people could siphon electrons while you're paying the bill.

The note with the phone number is interesting. I hope that catches on while we deal with limited availability. I could see this being added to the chargers themselves. e.g. I can tell the charger kiosk that I'm waiting and it can notify the existing vehicle that someone is now waiting. It tells you when it's done charging so would be easy to say "and now you've got someone waiting but you've been idle for 2hrs"

 

[zefram47]

Tesla might open up their superchargers (DC fast charging) to non-Tesla vehicles in the future. They have already done this to a very limited extent in Europe.

That's only because those European Superchargers were already CCS.

 

[NorthernOak]

It will be interesting to see if campground operators will start charging supplemental fees for EV charging

Some of them do. In my 5 years of EV ownership I've not had to use this option but in a few instances I had a few RV sites as part of a backup plan on road trips. Usually I just go with what is on Plugshare. Most of the time people state giving the site owner $5-10 for a couple hours of use.

 

[zipzag]

Along this same line, EV charging at RV Parks is going to be a thing in the near future. RV Parks have the advantage of 30 and 50 amp outlets at each campsite. I'm sure that RV Park operators will start a surcharge for EV charging at your campsite. The advantage here is that each campsite has its own outlets so you don't have to compete for an outlet. You can just stay plugged-in overnight with no problem.

Brian

Charging at RV parks was a thing for years. But now it is pretty much backup unless you are camping. At 9000 watts on a 50amp connection it takes hours to add much range to a Rivian. RV parks and similar town sites with RV connections are listed on Plugshare.

Some state parks have nice powered camp sites, but are more likely to be 30 amps. Larger RVs typically don't fit in these sites, which makes it nicer for "car camping".

A workable plan in some more remote areas for me has been alternating days camping with power and motel. Sitting at an RV park to just charge is usually tedious even in an efficient EV. Doubly so in a Rivian.

Not trying to be a downer for new EVers, just trying to be realistic about what is shown on Plugshare vs. the reality of driving a Riven off the interstate.

 

[LTD in CBTS]

I use a Tesla adapter to charge at home every night for my R1T. Its the TeslaTap Mini 60. I already had a Tesla Gen2 Wall charger and I got another one on ebay so I can charge both the R1T and my Model 3 at the same time using their power share feature. Together the chargers share a 60A circuit. This particular adapter is a pretty tight fit on the charger cord so getting it on/off isn't the easiest. Also, it being so small there just isn't much to grab onto to pull it off the cord. I just leave it on my home charger and whenever I go on a road trip I'll pull it off and take it with me.

Hey Thanks for this post. Answers 1 major question. Just have 1 more. We have a Gen 2 Tesla Wall Charger that I want to use for my R1T (when I get it next year). Does the R1T allow programming to have charging from Tesla Wall Charger to start at midnight when electricity is cheapest. That is what we do with our Tesla.

 

[Max]

We usually rent a house on our vacation. Does anyone know what is the longest cord that can be used to plugin to a washing machine nema 14-50? has anyone done this?

 

[Zoidz]

Hilton has a page that shows all Hilton family (Hilton Garden, Hampton, Homewood, Doubletree, Embassy Suites, etc.) locations (1093) with EV charging. Sign up for Hilton Honors and get free nights as well.

Disclaimer: I don't work for them. I've been staying at Hilton properties for business and personal travel for years, always been happy with them, and have earned dozens of free nights over the years.

 

[Big_Ike]

We usually rent a house on our vacation. Does anyone know what is the longest cord that can be used to plugin to a washing machine nema 14-50? has anyone done this?

I've seen nema 14-50 extension cords on Amazon. I think 25' was the longest I saw.

I constructed a 50' nema 10-30 extension cord - with the help of the friendly expert at Ace - that I used successfully at our old house in the woods. Just did that in December.

 

[ads75]

We usually rent a house on our vacation. Does anyone know what is the longest cord that can be used to plugin to a washing machine nema 14-50? has anyone done this?

I remember laughing last year when I saw a Tesla on an extension cord in the Poconos, but it made sense. But VRBOs/AirBnB are one of the things that has me reconsidering a max pack. Sometimes its renting a house at the Outer Banks in North Carolina, last fall it was a house in the Finger Lakes of NY. It looks like the nearest "fast" DC charging stations are about 70 miles from each of those areas, which immediately takes away about 150 miles in range to get to the vacation and back to the charger. It doesn't look like a lot of chargers in those areas, most vacation houses don't have chargers, and a 14-50 could be hit or miss based on where its located. And I don't think 120v will do much for the battery even if someone doesn't drive for a day or two. Of course, I will may keep my Wrangler, and use that instead for road trips, but a 2 door soft top Wrangler isn't the best road trip vehicle either. Or rent ICE for a week.

 

[blturner]

We usually rent a house on our vacation. Does anyone know what is the longest cord that can be used to plugin to a washing machine nema 14-50? has anyone done this?

It is the dryer hookup you're after. Most of them would be 30 amp rather than 50.
I read the wall charger manual and it can be set to a lower amperage with dip switches. I did not see anything in the portable manual about that.

I would guess that that the adaptor sets the amps. Looks like they need to sell a 30 amp adaptor. It also said not to use an extension cord. Going to be pretty hard to get within 18 ft of the dryer outlet. I am sure the reason for this is that most extension cords are not thick enough to run the full amperage of the outlet continuously. This looks like a rule everyone is going to break. I can't even use the same outlet I plan on installing inside my house to park outside and charge. I will have to add 2 outlets or never do any more multi day projects in my side of the garage. Bummer.

At 120v the portable charger supports 1.3 kW charging so a 100% full charge from empty would take about 100 hours. But 16 hours would give more than 50 miles so it should get you back to a DCFC.
At 240v the Portable would charge from empty to full in 18 hours or so. Nearly 6 times faster.

 

[Max]

It is the dryer hookup you're after. Most of them would be 30 amp rather than 50.
I read the wall charger manual and it can be set to a lower amperage with dip switches. I did not see anything in the portable manual about that.

I would guess that that the adaptor sets the amps. Looks like they need to sell a 30 amp adaptor. It also said not to use an extension cord. Going to be pretty hard to get within 18 ft of the dryer outlet. I am sure the reason for this is that most extension cords are not thick enough to run the full amperage of the outlet continuously. This looks like a rule everyone is going to break. I can't even use the same outlet I plan on installing inside my house to park outside and charge. I will have to add 2 outlets or never do any more multi day projects in my side of the garage. Bummer.

At 120v the portable charger supports 1.3 kW charging so a 100% full charge from empty would take about 100 hours. But 16 hours would give more than 50 miles so it should get you back to a DCFC.
At 240v the Portable would charge from empty to full in 18 hours or so. Nearly 6 times faster.

I don't mind carrying a heavy higher Gage cord especially if it is made for this purpose to eliminate the need for adapters and reduces additional adapters needed.

In places like Maine with sub par charging infrastructure, 120V with R1 wouldn't work. If I can't have some sort of level 2 where I am staying, I will have to take wife's ICE. There is going to be a while before there is a lot of accommodations there with good dedicated charging setup.

 

[zipzag]

We usually rent a house on our vacation. Does anyone know what is the longest cord that can be used to plugin to a washing machine nema 14-50? has anyone done this?

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