LPF Battery or What they have now

[jambaman84]

So as most know, Rivian introduced the Standard pack and Standard+.
I spoke to Rivian who said currently the Standard and Standard+ both use the same battery chemistry as the Large and Max pack. But they will switch to LFP later in the summer for Standard Packs.

I'm not sure which is better than the other for Rivian. I had the standard range Tesla Model 3, and that thing depleted the battery super fast. Not sure if it was because of the size of the battery or the LFP battery. But I never got anywhere near the range that they showed.. But I know this is a Tesla thing.

Would you guys rather get the Standard pack with the battery that is on it now, or wait for the LFP? Any pros/cons to LFP?

Thanks

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[zefram47]

The big pro for LFP is that you can and should charge to 100% daily. The voltage range is fairly small on LFP cells so you actually need to exercise the range frequently for the BMS to be properly calibrated and there's no extra degradation for charging to 100%. IIRC, cold weather performance may be worse than NMC/NCA chemistries.

 

[Budman]

I live in Minnesota, it would take some convincing to get me to switch to LFP because of the cold weather performance reports I’ve seen.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

So as most know, Rivian introduced the Standard pack and Standard+.
I spoke to Rivian who said currently the Standard and Standard+ both use the same battery chemistry as the Large and Max pack. But they will switch to LFP later in the summer for Standard Packs.

I'm not sure which is better than the other for Rivian. I had the standard range Tesla Model 3, and that thing depleted the battery super fast. Not sure if it was because of the size of the battery or the LFP battery. But I never got anywhere near the range that they showed.. But I know this is a Tesla thing.

Would you guys rather get the Standard pack with the battery that is on it now, or wait for the LFP? Any pros/cons to LFP?

Thanks

We don't know anything about what they plan to do about thermal management or conditioning of the LFP pack. However, you're in CA and if you plan to remain in CA, most of which has a mild climate compared to CO or MN, LFP should be fine. Nothing wrong with the other option either.

And if you're in higher elevations of CA and do see snowy winters, it's more ideal that you have a garage in either case.

 

[dleepnw]

if it were me, id wait for the LFP. real world usage of NCM you stay within 10-70% to protect the battery, which means your range is really 200-240 miles (depending on the wheels/motors you have). with LFP you can charge up to 100% without any worries about battery degradation so real world range is 240-280 miles.

 

[Erikbecker]

So as most know, Rivian introduced the Standard pack and Standard+.
I spoke to Rivian who said currently the Standard and Standard+ both use the same battery chemistry as the Large and Max pack. But they will switch to LFP later in the summer for Standard Packs.

I'm not sure which is better than the other for Rivian. I had the standard range Tesla Model 3, and that thing depleted the battery super fast. Not sure if it was because of the size of the battery or the LFP battery. But I never got anywhere near the range that they showed.. But I know this is a Tesla thing.

Would you guys rather get the Standard pack with the battery that is on it now, or wait for the LFP? Any pros/cons to LFP?

Thanks

Waiting for the LFP could be a good move if the range is a big deal for you. Those batteries usually last longer and hold up better over time compared to other types. But, you gotta consider both sides of the coin. LFPs might be a bit heavier, which could impact your ride's weight and performance.

 

[SeaGeo]

if it were me, id wait for the LFP. real world usage of NCM you stay within 10-70% to protect the battery, which means your range is really 200-240 miles (depending on the wheels/motors you have). with LFP you can charge up to 100% without any worries about battery degradation so real world range is 240-280 miles.

These are NCA packs per Rivian.

I'm very curious to see voltages and vehicle weight of these standard/standard+ packs in the wild since I'm sure we won't get a tear down anytime soon.

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