Need new tires replacement on R1T after 16K miles

[ironpig]

Sounds about right for this car. If I get 20k I'll be stoked.

EVs and heavy cars are hell on tires and this car is both. But the upside is you'll rarely ever pay for brakes.

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[fbitz777]

If you have already explored day/night rates from the juice men, have you thought about solar? Can take the $6,500 to zero.

But I didn't want to be the extreme guy

Edit to say.... still 10g savings with my math

We don't have day/night rates yet!

And yes I have Solar (13kw) but I do not produce enough (I have 4 Evs); Actually the vampire drains on my Tesla and R1T are almost 2 months of Solar production;

 

[SolartoEV]

We don't have day/night rates yet!

And yes I have Solar (13kw) but I do not produce enough (I have 4 Evs); Actually the vampire drains on my Tesla and R1T are almost 2 months of Solar production;

I am in NY and they are hot and cold with EVs but I did just get the day night rate....sometimes it's only 4 or 5 cents at night. WILD!

 

[madgrey]

anyone doing the 5 tire rotation?

I did this over the weekend. My mileage is low, around 2300 so I probably jumped the gun a bit. Nice thing about doing a 5 tire rotation is that you only have to lift one corner at a time.

BTW: The R1T looked a bit funny covered with grime and mud but with a perfectly clean and perserved right rear shoe.

 

[ironpig]

anyone doing the 5 tire rotation?

Yep - I'm going to be doing my first this weekend.

 

[jebinc]

That’s a substantial difference in wear from just rotating one tire out. I must be driving differently. I realize too that since I am in construction I pull a heavy trailer on occasion. I’m sure that’s a factor also.

Or bad alignment….

 

[Trandall]

I had a 2011 JGC ( 168,000 miles) and now have a R1T

125,000 in a JGC is going to cost you close to $30,000 in gas
125,000 in a R1T is going to cost you about $6,500 in electric

125,000 in a JGC changing the oil every 7,500 miles is going to cost $1,666
125,000 In a R1T is going to cost you $0

I'm looking at $25,000 "savings"

You talked about 2 sets of tires in 125,000 and I'm thinking I might need 6. So 4 more at $1,400.

$19,600 in savings for a rocket ship seems worth it....

I'm not calling you out at all, this is just how I see it

Bonus points for showing math... ha. In my mind Rivian seems like a real problem for Land Rover. Where Rivian might take a few 2% of sales from Ford/ GM I could see them taking a huge chunk, 50%?, from Land Rover.
So as not to derail the tire discussion... I am currently 15500 miles and doing 5 tire rotation every 5K I am trending towards 25K maybe I will let them go to 28K since that will come in summer but that will probably pushing the limit. Not sure If I'll replace in kind or something else. For clarity this is on the 20" AT.

 

[Dark-Fx]

What tires did you replace the originals with? The load rating is quite a bit lower than stock, 111 vs 115 (2403 vs 2679 lbs per tire).

Hopefully OP realizes they have to derate their payload quite a bit now since the rear axle is supposed to have tires rated for a combined 4870 lbs. 111 load rated tires would be only 4806 lbs axle rating.

 

[Trandall]

Hopefully OP realizes they have to derate their payload quite a bit now since the rear axle is supposed to have tires rated for a combined 4870 lbs. 111 load rated tires would be only 4806 lbs axle rating.

I just assumed he was living adventurously!

 

[Jafresh]

Or bad alignment….

Wear has been even for tire wear so prob unlikely.

 

[tyfly867]

10K Tire Wear on 21”s

I posted this a few days ago. I’m on pace to get at least 40k out of a set.

 

[White Shadow]

I had a 2011 JGC ( 168,000 miles) and now have a R1T

125,000 in a JGC is going to cost you close to $30,000 in gas
125,000 in a R1T is going to cost you about $6,500 in electric

125,000 in a JGC changing the oil every 7,500 miles is going to cost $1,666
125,000 In a R1T is going to cost you $0

I'm looking at $25,000 "savings"

You talked about 2 sets of tires in 125,000 and I'm thinking I might need 6. So 4 more at $1,400.

$19,600 in savings for a rocket ship seems worth it....

I'm not calling you out at all, this is just how I see it

Not sure how you're calculating those Grand Cherokee expenses, but you sure spend a lot more than I do on my Grand Cherokee.

125,000 miles on my Grand Cherokee costs me less than $20,000 in fuel purchases.
125,000 miles of oil changes costs me less than $500, but I do my own oil changes
I'll need to replace my tires for the first time probably next winter at 70,000 miles, which seems pretty good considering that my Grand Cherokee weighs more than 5,000 lbs.

Just curious...how much is the insurance on your Rivian? I pay a bit less than $600 annually for full coverage on my Jeep.

I'm not debating overall costs, but I am curious to what the overall cost of ownership differences are between something like a Grand Cherokee and for me, an R1S. I also love the 22" wheels, so tire replacements for me would be far more than $1,400.

 

[Rivuylkill]

I switched back and forth about 20 vs 21 vs 22 until the day I got my truck (and also still do after). I really wanted the efficiency of the 21's, but among other reasons, one of the bigger things pushing me towards the 20's was of course more tire availability, but also cost difference. There were early reports of the wear being high, plus the stock tires are pretty expensive. I'm sure it's not even, but I figure I can make some of the efficiency $ back in cheaper or better wearing tires. Plus, still holding out for a good 20" all season option, I know there's been at least one test so far.

Or at least that's what I tell myself when I wonder if I got the right wheels.

 

[RBR1S]

I had a 2011 JGC ( 168,000 miles) and now have a R1T

125,000 in a JGC is going to cost you close to $30,000 in gas
125,000 in a R1T is going to cost you about $6,500 in electric

125,000 in a JGC changing the oil every 7,500 miles is going to cost $1,666
125,000 In a R1T is going to cost you $0

I'm looking at $25,000 "savings"

You talked about 2 sets of tires in 125,000 and I'm thinking I might need 6. So 4 more at $1,400.

$19,600 in savings for a rocket ship seems worth it....

I'm not calling you out at all, this is just how I see it

I wasn't mentioning the gas or charging, just thinking that 24 old tires in your example vs 8 is a lot of waste product.

But to your point, I wonder if the waste oil from 15+ changes is enough to make or offset a tire or how many tires?

As I said before, manufacturers of both vehicles and tires can do better given the chance and consumers shouldn't be afraid to push back on that.

 

[RBR1S]

Not sure how you're calculating those Grand Cherokee expenses, but you sure spend a lot more than I do on my Grand Cherokee.

125,000 miles on my Grand Cherokee costs me less than $20,000 in fuel purchases.
125,000 miles of oil changes costs me less than $500, but I do my own oil changes
I'll need to replace my tires for the first time probably next winter at 70,000 miles, which seems pretty good considering that my Grand Cherokee weighs more than 5,000 lbs.

125k miles based on my average mpg would be about 6500 gallons (20or so mpg). If I'm in TX, thats about $15k. If I'm in WA, that's about $20k. That's 2 sets of tires more. That's being said, 125K miles in WA using 75% renewables vs 125k miles in TX using 25% renewables, well, yeah, you do the global math.


To your point - 2014JGC is 4545-5150lbs depending on options and engine. R1T is 7148. So 2k lbs more. Now - What I'd like to know is how many people with an F150/250 that hauls stuff every day, say a work truck, how often are you replacing tires? Cause 2 decades ago, the Ram 2500 I had (over 6100lbs), I don't remember replacing tires any where near as often as what they are stating.

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