RAN Rivian Charging Stations Locations Map via Google Maps

[TeamEV]

Some more funding for Rivian, although I'm not sure that this has to do with NEVI.

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[Autolycus]

Some more funding for Rivian, although I'm not sure that this has to do with NEVI.

These do not seem to use NEVI funds. It's part of this state program:

https://epa.illinois.gov/topics/air-quality/driving-a-cleaner-illinois.html

Funding for that program comes from the IL Climate and Equitable Jobs Act. Past funding for the program also came from the VW settlement and the IL Diesel Emissions Reduction Act.

 

[zefram47]

Some more funding for Rivian, although I'm not sure that this has to do with NEVI.

Thank goodness! The Normal EA station was one of the worst I've stopped at because it was so damn busy and only 4 stalls. Kind of inexcusable that they didn't install one there sooner. Springfield and Oak Brook will be good too. I was surprised that western Chicagoland was so bad for chargers. It wasn't so much the lack of chargers as so many were down, derated, or always full...so Oak Brook will be nice if I go visit family out that way again.

 

[camaroz1985]

In Moosic, PA - right next to the Tesla station. The Rivian gear is in. The irrigation folks said they are waiting on the main power feed to be run to the transformer - happening in “two weeks”

Glad to see progress, but this seems really silly especially now that Superchargers are open to Rivian. Those do look like V2 though, so maybe that particular station isn't open to Rivian, but one would have to imagine they will be replaced with V4 at some point and would be available then.

 

[DeafPug]

Yes, the Moosic, PA site is an older v2 (150 kW) Supercharger site. While Tesla sometimes goes in and expands a v2 site with new v3 hardware, they rarely, if ever, rip out the original v2 hardware. Due to potential confusion on which are able to be used by other vehicles with a NACS adapter, these combo/mixed sites are not available to other vehicle manufacturers.

 

[djsider2]

Firebaugh, CA is up now according to Rivian

 

[Autolycus]

UPDATE (4/20/24): I pulled a new file from NREL and added it as a new layer. It's very messy, but you can at least get some idea of where each network has stations. If anybody has a good idea for how to relatively painlessly pull clean, complete data files as either CSV or KML for specific networks, especially Tesla (with the critical data on magic dock and NACS compatibility), I can try to do something a little better than this.

Discussion:
I'm sure NREL isn't the ideal source -- if for no other reason than the Tesla data on there is all but useless for us -- but I haven't found another good source that is a) free and b) easy to pull and get into Google Maps without much cleaning.

If anybody likes the idea of having more frequently updated layers, and especially if they want to do regular layer updates for specific networks, I'm happy to discuss how it might be done and to give edit permissions. It's not a feature I want to invest a ton of my own time in because there are other good sources of maps for active stations for EA, Tesla, etc. Supercharge.info has great info on upcoming Tesla stations. And honestly I'm not super interested in tracking what EA or EVGo stations are coming soon. heheh Besides, Plugshare does have that sort of info for those networks. But I can do very infrequent and quick but messy updates like the one I did this morning.

 

[TeamEV]

New site in Troy, Michigan, near Detroit.

 

[DeafPug]

The Wichita site looks open. Have a Tesla, so couldn’t test it out…

 

[Sempervirens]

The Wichita site looks open. Have a Tesla, so couldn’t test it out…

Don't love the weird pricing. Why can't we all just have $0.36 forever.

 

[emoore]

Don't love the weird pricing. Why can't we all just have $0.36 forever.

It's the state's fault. I'm sure Rivian would like to have it $0.36/kWh but some states don't allow that and have to charge by time (Nebraska is another one).

 

[Rgrin]

It's the state's fault. I'm sure Rivian would like to have it $0.36/kWh but some states don't allow that and have to charge by time (Nebraska is another one).

The Tesla SC down the road in El Dorado charges per kWh, as does the EA in Wichita. So I don't think it is a Kansas mandate.

And besides, it's a great deal. Based on the app, this is a 2:1 cabinet-share setup. Worst case, you share a cabinet with one other, getting 150 kW, which at $17.40/hr is $0.11.6/kWh, if you can charge at peak. Best case, you get the full 215 kW all to yourself, which is $0.08/kWh.

 

[DeafPug]

It's the state's fault. I'm sure Rivian would like to have it $0.36/kWh but some states don't allow that and have to charge by time (Nebraska is another one).

I don’t know what’s going on with the rates there. When Tesla Superchargers were first deployed in Kansas, they had per-minute billing rates. The reasoning was, as you stated, that state laws said only utility companies could charge per-kWh. Maybe back sometime around 2020, Tesla switched to per kWh rates in Kansas, so not sure why Rivian wouldn’t be able to do the same.

Having said that, you WANT these per minute rates instead of $0.36/kWh.

charging at 50 kW = $0.348/kWh
charging at 100 kW = $0.207/kWh
charging at 150 kW = $0.116/kWh
charging at 200 kW = $0.120/kWh

If you disconnect when you drop below 50 kW, you’ll be paying less per kWh than the standard rate they charge. Don’t go for a full charge and you’ll be saving money.

 

[emoore]

The Tesla SC down the road in El Dorado charges per kWh, as does the EA in Wichita. So I don't think it is a Kansas mandate.

And besides, it's a great deal. Based on the app, this is a 2:1 cabinet-share setup. Worst case, you share a cabinet with one other, getting 150 kW, which at $17.40/hr is $0.11.6/kWh, if you can charge at peak. Best case, you get the full 215 kW all to yourself, which is $0.08/kWh.

Yeah that's odd. I know it was a Nebraska mandate and it was a great deal. Cost me $4-$8 per charge, crazy cheap.

 

[TheWoo]

The Wichita site looks open. Have a Tesla, so couldn’t test it out…

You should love these prices if you get to charge there - at $.40/min when charging hits 200kW, you're paying $.12/kWh. I'm hitting this sucker every time I'm driving to Wichita!

As stated above, it has something to do with utility laws in Kansas, but some of the networks have switched, so I'm guessing there's a process they have to go through to get approved to charge by the kWh rather than by the minute. Hopefully for me it takes a while before Rivian gets that done.

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