Normally I think the "miles per hour" charging metric is useless, but it does help normalize the charging speed across vehicles when considering their efficiency.
Agreed, standard vs max pack on the same truck is already normalized for the vehicle's efficiency since they're effectively the same.
100%.
It isn't likely they improved the speed below 50% since that is already fast. Maybe they allow it to maintain 200 kW longer, which could improve the below 50% speed. But not by much.
Not a fair comparison since all those cars have smaller batteries. Based on battery size, the R1 is actually charging faster.Interesting video comparing Tesla supercharger to EA. Looks like about 45 minutes roughly for 10-80%. Hoping the software update can cut 10 minutes off the 10-80% down to 35 minutes. 45 minutes is slower than the cars listed below according to Google AI.
According to the internet the Max Pack yields 149kWh capacity and has a max charging speed of 220kW. I’m leasing a 2025 Long-Range RWD Model 3 with a battery that’s about 80kWh and has a max charging speed of 250kW. I only ever hit that 250kW speed if I drive my state of charge down below 20%. Most of the time it sits around 150kW and then drops as the battery gets fuller.Curious what others are seeing in terms of charging speed. Seems like my max pack is not charging as fast or as consistently as my lightning. Only got 150kw max even starting at 26% SOC even though I set the charger as my destination so I would think it would have precondition the battery if it needed it. Tapered to about 100kw by the time I unplugged it at 66% SOC. FYI this was at an EA 350kw charger.
At the end of the day, range added is what really matters, not charging time to 80%. My T charges a crap load faster than my Mach-e did, if to you convert it to miles added per minute. I can charge my T to 80% almost as fast as I could in my Mach-e, and then drive 60% farther.
Man, this sucks. You even preconditioned and drove it down below 20%. I wonder if this is something they can improve with an OTA update or does it have to do with the battery chemistry, which differs from the Large Pack?Just wanted to provide an update on my experience max pack charging speeds. It still has not improved. It’s a bit frustrating that Rivian still has not improved the charging considering max pack has been out for a while now. It’s disappointing to pay more money for the max pack and yet it performs worse than lower cost large pack. I really hope rivian puts more priority on improving the charge speeds of the max pack. With its current state, it’s terrible road tripper if you have to fast charge. Photos attached to show I only hit 180kw even with battery preconditioning and starting from 17% SoC. When my truck was in the shop for a month I was able to drive a loaner large pack and it consistently performed better than my max pack at the same chargers.
You're right ultimately we care about miles added per time duration but there are so many versions of the vehicles (performance, dual, quad, tri, wheel/tires) and 10-80% is a direct comparison of just battery performance without looking at configuration etc. OOS chart below shows that in a 40 minute session a Tesla Model Y adds about 50 more miles (250 vs 200) for a max pack. Even comparing a Rivian large pack to a max pack it's also close to 50 miles more miles in a 40 minute session. I'm hoping the Max at least performs as well as a large with the update. In most cases a larger battery should be able to add more miles than a smaller sized battery.
