How long do you plan to keep your current Rivian?

[TTedP]

My Gen 2 has been great and plan to keep it least 5-7yrs or when battery and electrical technology advance enough to be a significant change, not an incremental one. So, Gen 4 maybe?

I also had a res on a Scout but starting to wonder if it even makes it to market.

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[Greg Chick]

Are you using the 21" Defender tires? If so how's the tread life?

The tread life is looking like I will get 40,000 miles or better. The sound is not noticable to me or my wife. The traction is as good or better in the snow than the Scorpion Verde's. They are significantly cheaper and the America's (Discount Tire) stocks them or next day available.

A game changer because I was getting very poor mileage before.

 

[emoore]

The tread life is looking like I will get 40,000 miles or better. The sound is not noticable to me or my wife. The traction is as good or better in the snow than the Scorpion Verde's. They are significantly cheaper and the America's (Discount Tire) stocks them or next day available.

A game changer because I was getting very poor mileage before.

Great to hear. I have the Scorpions and need new tires again after 20k miles. Going to switch to the Defenders next. Any impact on range?

 

[Greg Chick]

Great to hear. I have the Scorpions and need new tires again after 20k miles. Going to switch to the Defenders next. Any impact on range?

I saw no change in mileage. A trip tpo town and back is 35 to 38 miles and the % of battery remained under 10%, the same as before. The % use toggled around 9%. The only difference is weather/temp. I use All purpose/ standard hight, I'm a Quad large pack.

 

[darkrystalR2]

My last truck I kept for 19 years and 256,000 miles, it was bulletproof until it just rusted... and I loved that truck as much as I love my RT1.
I can think of 4 things that would make me consider another.
1. Battery Tech, sodium or other tech that would eliminate winter range loss - I am in Wisconsin - some significantly better battery tech would make me at least consider.
2. Change of life that I no longer need a pickup - I'd look at the R2
3. An accident takes it out.
4. If it rusts out or starts being really unreliable for some reason.

 

[Jonger1150]

When a R1T can pull into a charger and regain back nearly 100% of a 400+ range battery in under 20 minutes.

That's when I'll be on board. I don't expect that within 5 years.

If Gen 3 doesn't have it, I'll be waiting for Gen 4.

 

[darkrystalR2]

My last truck I kept for 19 years and 256,000 miles, it was bulletproof until it just rusted... and I loved that truck as much as I love my RT1.
I can think of 4 things that would make me consider another.
1. Battery Tech, sodium or other tech that would eliminate winter range loss - I am in Wisconsin - some significantly better battery tech would make me at least consider.
2. Change of life that I no longer need a pickup - I'd look at the R2
3. An accident takes it out.
4. If it rusts out or starts being really unreliable for some reason.

Now, 2 features I can think of that would make me look -
1. A real sunroof that opens.
2. A drop rear window - and I would give up the gear tunnel for that.

 

[bfilippo]

Now, 2 features I can think of that would make me look -
1. A real sunroof that opens.
2. A drop rear window - and I would give up the gear tunnel for that.

Yeah, I don’t know if I would give up the gear tunnel easily, but they really should implement an opening rear window - maybe it could slide…

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Now, 2 features I can think of that would make me look -
1. A real sunroof that opens.
2. A drop rear window - and I would give up the gear tunnel for that.

1. Not gonna happen. Previously thought the glass roof is due to cost. Turns out it's more than that. it's an work-around to somewhat outdated federal safety regulation regarding roll cages, which would have added unnecessary cost and manufacturing time. Modern engineering, materials and methods enable OEMs to engineer cabs that are strong enough without need to add roll cages. This was mentioned in at least one of many recent interviews regarding R2. The auto industry has seen many evolutionary developments in the past century. The trend towards glass roofs is one of them and it's here to stay. It's not a gimmicky passing fad.

2. Would definitely add cost. And for them to offer it as an option, there would have to be enough takers—to make a business case—for them to deem it worthwhile. Gear Tunnel is far more useful and it is the R1T's superpower. It's what makes the R1T special, apart from any truck. It is not going away.

 

[kallisti5]

I have a '22 LE R1T too. Had charging issues on my last road trip in September with 70K miles. Service Center couldn't find anything wrong in their diagnostics. Sometimes it would start up fine at a RAN and then error out at some point during the charge. Then it wouldn't communicate by plug-and-play. I would have to initiate the next session via the app. Infotainment reset didn't help. Once I did a hard reboot, it would accept plug-and-play for the next charge session...until it would eventually error out. I have a road trip coming up in 2 weeks so we'll see how that one goes.

After much, much, much complaining on my part (and 18 videos of it happening, and 3 service visits) they finally fixed it.

They replaced the central gateway module (CGM). I had enough documentation of it happening under warranty to convince them to replace it under warranty. ($1200 out of pocket potential). They were all kind of pissy about me making such a racket about it.

I can DCFC with 100% reliability now. My driving experience just doubled or tripled.

Worth it.

 

[shamoo]

Earlier in this thread, my answer was, "When the Scout gets released and I see what its capabilities are."

Now that Scout may be delayed/not happen, I'm not so sure. I don't tend to keep my daily drivers more than 3-4 years and as the Rivian ages and gets out of warranty, things could get risky.

I'd prefer an EV but I want to do more overlanding/off roading and all the good stuff is 2+ hours away. Not ideal for an EV. So maybe 4Runner, Sequoia, GX550 Overtrail, LX700h Overtail, maybe even GWagon or Defender Octa. We'll see.

 

[DaveA]

Love the truck, just can't stand the air suspension feel, noise and drivetrain slop (Gen 1) even after multiple half-shafts, hubs and new motor... so trading for R2 as soon as my number is called. I'll be back for Gen 3 or 4.

 

[TexasBob]

I like our Rivians but I have come to realize they are not really what we need. The T is a swiss army knife and the Dune is stupid fun, but realistically we need something a bit smaller. It is now a matter of waiting for the right spec vehicles to come on the market. One needs to be a 350+ miles range, fast (under 20 minutes) charging, practical SUV with real eyes-off highway autonomy (iX3 mostly fits the bill perfectly except for the autonomy, R2 range and charging falls short). The other vehicle I think we are going to go back to a sports sedan for the wife. She likes that form factor better, but we still want the range, charging, and autonomy.

Right now, the only thing I see on the horizon that will tick all the boxes are the 2028 Audi Concept C and the 2028 Q8 e-tron successor both of which will have the Mobileye Chauffer eyes off system. Lucid midsize may surprise with NVIDIA. EX60 XC would be a good fit if they get the latest Geely autonomy stack. Or who knows, Rivian might come through on charging and range (not holding my breath). But the next vehicle set is not going to be a compromise on Range, Charging, and Autonomy.

 

[Webleyaz]

I owned a bodyshop for 20+ years and heard so many of the "I wish I had kept that car" stories that I don't get rid of any that I like. Still have 68 camaro, 89 TTA, 98 TJ. And none of those compare to the R1T. He who dies with the most toys wins. I'm only competing with a select few, tho.

 

[mkhuffman]

I like our Rivians but I have come to realize they are not really what we need. The T is a swiss army knife and the Dune is stupid fun, but realistically we need something a bit smaller. It is now a matter of waiting for the right spec vehicles to come on the market. One needs to be a 350+ miles range, fast (under 20 minutes) charging, practical SUV with real eyes-off highway autonomy (iX3 mostly fits the bill perfectly except for the autonomy, R2 range and charging falls short). The other vehicle I think we are going to go back to a sports sedan for the wife. She likes that form factor better, but we still want the range, charging, and autonomy.

Right now, the only thing I see on the horizon that will tick all the boxes are the 2028 Audi Concept C and the 2028 Q8 e-tron successor both of which will have the Mobileye Chauffer eyes off system. Lucid midsize may surprise with NVIDIA. EX60 XC would be a good fit if they get the latest Geely autonomy stack. Or who knows, Rivian might come through on charging and range (not holding my breath). But the next vehicle set is not going to be a compromise on Range, Charging, and Autonomy.

Seems like the Gravity could fit what you are looking for.

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