Any updates on receiving the Tesla charging adapter?

[TollKeeper]

I didn't think the UL cert for DC charging was released yet. So it's not possible for 3rd party adapters to be officially certified (same with Tesla). Wonder if Tesla can exclude any other adapters besides their own? Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.

I think that would be shooting off their nose despite their face..

True, they do want control of the market for "official" adapters.

But are they really going to decline the money from end users that are using their SuperChargers at a per kWh fee? That would be a bad business model.

But again, this is ELMO we are talking about.

I dont hate, or even dislike ELMO. I am quite envious of him to be honest.
But his design in eggs... I mean cars, leaves a lot to be desired.
And his design for the CT... I think my 6 year old, or even my 2 year old, could draw up something more appealing that that hideous contraption. Edit: I cant even figure out what it is to be honest. I tried to put a finger on it. Its not a truck. Its not a SUV. It is its own thing. And I use the term Thing Loosely.

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[srnyoung]

So, seems like no one has gotten an adapter then? That's the update? Yikes. I guess they won't all be shipped by the end of April like that email promised...

If I'm being charitable, I could imaging the [now defunct] Supercharger team using slow shipment of their adapter to gatekeep the process of adding brands to superchargers. That way Elmo can throw a big tantrum down the road and take back other brands ability to use them (knowing full well the subsidies that required him to open up the network will never be recalled...).

More realistically, there is a desk in a now-empty wing of some Tesla building where the transfer paperwork for the 100k adapters (for Ford and Rivian) is slowly being buried under all the other sh1t that is accumulating while the fired staff doesn't continue moving things forward. If they don't even know who they have ongoing construction projects with, why would they ever hustle at getting the adapters moved along. Especially knowing that more Rivians and Fords using the now static Supercharger network will just make their fanbois MORE mad?!

 

[Epzey]

Totally agree. Although I do think that Tesla isn't allowing anyone else to make "official" adapters for the superchargers. That's the only reason I can think of that Ford, Rivian, GM, etc would rely 100% on Tesla for the adapters. They could easily make their own or partner with a 3rd party but it seems like Tesla dictated that only their adapters would be officially

I didn't think the UL cert for DC charging was released yet. So it's not possible for 3rd party adapters to be officially certified (same with Tesla). Wonder if Tesla can exclude any other adapters besides their own? Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.

https://www.ul.com/services/electric-vehicle-ev-charging-infrastructure-services




it appears specifically for DC you are correct so I apologize for assuming. they appear to have standards and certs for every functional part of the connectors which is specifically the issue with the Lectron locking mechanism no? Not saying it’s cut and dry, my experience is in 12v and home consumer electronics. HV is wizardry to me as much as anyone. I’ve done minimal research into this since any of the adapters came out. so admittedly I’m making a lot of assumptions from a cursory knowledge vs my experience in CE; regional standards and certifications of much less dangerous stuff.

 

[emoore]

So, seems like no one has gotten an adapter then? That's the update? Yikes. I guess they won't all be shipped by the end of April like that email promised...

If I'm being charitable, I could imaging the [now defunct] Supercharger team using slow shipment of their adapter to gatekeep the process of adding brands to superchargers. That way Elmo can throw a big tantrum down the road and take back other brands ability to use them (knowing full well the subsidies that required him to open up the network will never be recalled...).

More realistically, there is a desk in a now-empty wing of some Tesla building where the transfer paperwork for the 100k adapters (for Ford and Rivian) is slowly being buried under all the other sh1t that is accumulating while the fired staff doesn't continue moving things forward. If they don't even know who they have ongoing construction projects with, why would they ever hustle at getting the adapters moved along. Especially knowing that more Rivians and Fords using the now static Supercharger network will just make their fanbois MORE mad?!

Agree with everything except Rivian never promised to ship them all out by end of April. The email said they will begin shipping them out by the end of April which they did. Not their fault that a few weeks later Elon fired the entire supercharger team. This is all on Elon.

 

[Cycliste]

@srnyoung

 

[Riviaenz]

How do you know this is what Rivian wanted? Maybe part of the deal was the Tesla would have an exclusive on approved adapters. It would be nice for 3rd party adapters to be officially approved but I have a feeling that's on Tesla to allow.

Or what the logistics are between Tesla (and their sourcing) and how they’re provided to Rivian. We know that Rivian is at least providing packaging (from prior posts the adapters are coming in Rivian boxes). From other sources it also looks like Elmo did impact Tesla’s own manufacturing capacity with the revenge firing he inflicted to the Supercharger teams.

 

[ironpig]

At this point Rivian may have to come out and publicly certify/endorse the A2Z adapter. They are selling trucks with the promise of adapters and if Tesla decides not to honor the deal, it leaves them in a bad position. Access to superchargers is a big deal to new buyers.

 

[srnyoung]

Agree with everything except Rivian never promised to ship them all out by end of April. The email said they will begin shipping them out by the end of April which they did. Not their fault that a few weeks later Elon fired the entire supercharger team. This is all on Elon.

I mean, Rivian did make a deal with the devil. That's on them...
They could have waited a month or two longer until it was a standard and then created their own...

@srnyoung

Exactly. If you squint, you can see the pallet labelled "FORWARD TO NORMAL"...
Right underneath the Ark of the Covenant...

 

[ironpig]

So, seems like no one has gotten an adapter then? That's the update? Yikes. I guess they won't all be shipped by the end of April like that email promised...

A few people got them and then the supercharger teams were laid off and the process stopped (although that could be a coincidence).

But I can tell you that my 2022 VIN is in the 4500s which is fairly early and I haven't heard a Peep. So I have been using the A2Z adapter.

 

[MidnightRivian]

Day 3 Ford customer orders from March 2nd, 2024 are showing an estimate of August currently.

I plan to use my A2Z adapter this summer for a reliable road trip.

 

[emoore]

I mean, Rivian did make a deal with the devil. That's on them...
They could have waited a month or two longer until it was a standard and then created their own...


Exactly. If you squint, you can see the pallet labelled "FORWARD TO NORMAL"...
Right underneath the Ark of the Covenant...

I don't think waiting two months longer would have helped. It's up to Tesla who can use what adapters on their charging network.

 

[iansriv]

I was planning on a summer road trip IF I got this in time. That's ok. There will be more summers.

 

[Riviaenz]

if he did I have questions I got my opt in email end of April and no others since. I was hopeful I would have by now as I am planning to drive from OR to MA and spend the summer helping my mom who just had her other hip replaced.

Whenever I see another Rivian at a DCFC, when on a road trip (it’s been about every other weekend over the last couple of months) I tend to bring that up to try to get ideas about how that’s progressing. That owner was the first that had gotten the opt-in AND the address check emails. I’ve only gotten the opt-in (early April) - seems like the first batch of opt-ins. Every few days I check my junk folder for that second email. It seems like if they were in the 3k range at the start of May they were probably at about 1k/wk. But I don’t have any other data points to have a good idea of what the lead time might be. Plus the one datapoint I collected was just after Elmo set off the Supercharger dumpster fire so it’s super stale.

That’s where this thread could become far more useful, if owners could be providing updates on when they’re getting their address validation email and receiving shipments in the context of what their VIN k range is.

 

[Riviaenz]

How do you know this is what Rivian wanted? Maybe part of the deal was the Tesla would have an exclusive on approved adapters. It would be nice for 3rd party adapters to be officially approved but I have a feeling that's on Tesla to allow.

Yeah and that brings up another interesting conundrum - when Ford, Rivian, and others start integrating the NACS outlet on new cars, will they be reliant on Tesla‘s supply chain or will they be able to setup their own suppliers. It’s a scary thought if they have to rely on Tesla directly and source them through them a tier 1/2 supplier for it.

 

[Riviaenz]

At this point Rivian may have to come out and publicly certify/endorse the A2Z adapter. They are selling trucks with the promise of adapters and if Tesla decides not to honor the deal, it leaves them in a bad position. Access to superchargers is a big deal to new buyers.

The problem is they only hold validation/certification authority for what will work with R1 cars and NOT Tesla’s Superchargers. They would likely get into an heap of trouble perhaps even jeopardizing the whole agreement if they approve an adapter that Tesla won’t certify for use with their Superchargers. I’m sure part of “what’s in it for Tesla” is being the sole supplier for the adapters (and hopefully not the ports to be integrated into future EVs).

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