21" Inch Coming down to the wire.... tire replacement

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Good timing to get in on those R3X-style 20s soonish is offering. With the right tire choice in XL 275/60R20 you may not loose much range, if at all. Durability. Ride quality. Efficiency. All in one. Plus, options in dedicated snow tires, should you ever need it.

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[VandalSibs]

But seriously, get away from those 21s. 20 is where its at! You go from 2 not great options to indecision paralysis over the volume of options between manufacturers, size, type, etc.

It would be nice to be able to do that right now, but it's not in the budget.

 

[Riviot]

It would be nice to be able to do that right now, but it's not in the budget.

FWIW you essentially get a $500 discount on the MSWs by pairing with the Goodyears over the 21" Michelins. By your second set of tires that's $1000 off, and then you're in the black on the 3rd set.

But if sticking to 21s, go Michelin.

 

[forestwalker]

If you're strictly factoring cost and efficiency, the price/data are the best indicators, obviously.

-BUT-

If you're looking for colloquial input from users, I cannot recommend highly enough, the Yokohama Geolandar A/T4 275/55 R21 116H XL BSW.

They have been the best mix of low noise, good dry weather grip, excellent in snow, properly rated for the weight, great looking tire I have found available for these on the 21" wheels. I have NO idea on efficiency hit, as it isn't a concern of mine at all, but otherwise, they have been excellent.

 

[VandalSibs]

FWIW you essentially get a $500 discount on the MSWs by pairing with the Goodyears over the 21" Michelins. By your second set of tires that's $1000 off, and then you're in the black on the 3rd set.

But if sticking to 21s, go Michelin.

Just for my future reference (if I do end up going with 20" wheels in the future), what are "MSWs" in this context? And is there a good All-Season version of the Goodyears (or some other alternate AS tire that you might recommend?)

If you're strictly factoring cost and efficiency, the price/data are the best indicators, obviously.

-BUT-

If you're looking for colloquial input from users, I cannot recommend highly enough, the Yokohama Geolandar A/T4 275/55 R21 116H XL BSW.

They have been the best mix of low noise, good dry weather grip, excellent in snow, properly rated for the weight, great looking tire I have found available for these on the 21" wheels. I have NO idea on efficiency hit, as it isn't a concern of mine at all, but otherwise, they have been excellent.

I'm hoping to stick with All-Seasons - I'm not doing any serious enough off-roading for AT tires.

 

[forestwalker]

I'm hoping to stick with All-Seasons - I'm not doing any serious enough off-roading for AT tires.

Yeah, but... but... they look so much cooler.

 

[Riviot]

Just for my future reference (if I do end up going with 20" wheels in the future), what are "MSWs" in this context? And is there a good All-Season version of the Goodyears (or some other alternate AS tire that you might recommend?)



I'm hoping to stick with All-Seasons - I'm not doing any serious enough off-roading for AT tires.

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-wheels/msw-type-52

I'm partial to Goodyear for the 25% discount through USAA lol. So I was looking at these for my AS when Pirellis kick the can:

https://www.goodyear.com/en-us/tires/wrangler-territory-ht_NA-255787?tireFinder=true&isPLP=true

 

[VandalSibs]

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-wheels/msw-type-52

I'm partial to Goodyear for the 25% discount through USAA lol. So I was looking at these for my AS when Pirellis kick the can:

https://www.goodyear.com/en-us/tires/wrangler-territory-ht_NA-255787?tireFinder=true&isPLP=true

Thanks for the info! I'll keep it in mind for the future...

 

[mkhuffman]

I am nearing 4/32 on my OEM 21” Pirellis and bought limited remaining stock of the Hankook ION HT. I am trusting Gemini which states that reduced rolling resistance will more than compensate for the increased weight of the tires due to the longer tread life. I hope my experience is the same as others who have posted.

Some LLMs are better than others, and yours seems to understand logic and reason. Rolling resistance IS the most important factor regarding tire efficiency. Period. Weight matters, but not as much.

Get the Hankooks!

 

[KvonBCO]

I switched to the Michelin’s about 8 months ago. Negligible effect on range, if any, and they are wearing waaaaaay better than the Perelli’s. They seem quieter, though the noise never bothered me and they were good in the snow as wel

 

[jrmbadger]

I have the Hankook Ion tires for my Model Y and we like them. They are holding up well after the factory set was replaced just over a year after we bought it.

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