Comma AI / OpenPilot Autopilot Progress on R1!

[CTRedCanyon]

LOL, are you in marketing? So yeah, $1k for the harness only plus the $1200 Comma 3.

So don't buy the harness for $1K, if nobody supports it, it might never happen. I guess you can just hope to freeload off of everyone else's hard work to wait for the harness to be $199 like the other production harnesses. Of course those of us paying the $1K will have this up and running in a couple of months in beta form, full release and production of actual harnesses from Comma could be who knows when - 8 months? a year?

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[CTRedCanyon]

LOL, are you in marketing? So yeah, $1k for the harness only plus the $1200 Comma 3.

If the Comma 3x was fully working and cost $2500 to do everything that it does, I bet a lot of Rivian owners would gladly spend that to add real driver autonomy features to their vehicle. Especially considering the price of the vehicle in the first place.

 

[SwampNut]

At no time did I complain, or say it wasn't worth it, or make anything close to a judgement. Your panty twisting is unwarranted. Math is math, and I like logic and numbers. I've supported dozens of OS projects, usually at a net dollar loss to me.

 

[R1TandMe]

I know people want FSD but damn I like driving my vehicles, all of them.
So I’m not interested, but nobody cares. But I have a question. How would this affect your warrant?

 

[SwampNut]

How would this affect your warrant?

How could it possibly affect your warranty? No mods are made.

 

[CTRedCanyon]

I know people want FSD but damn I like driving my vehicles, all of them.
So I’m not interested, but nobody cares. But I have a question. How would this affect your warrant?

It doesn't affect the warranty, it's a man-in-the middle plug and play device. It intercepts the factory camera/radar etc. and sends alternative control signals to the steering wheel and accelerator to control driving. As soon as it's unplugged, everything is right back to stock.

 

[rraj2k81]

I doubt if Rivian will allow this beyond the development stage. It's a massive liability issue for them. If this becomes available, they will find a way to block it.

Tesla's FSD already is getting a lot of negative attention, and Rivian would not want their brand associated with it.

Edit: Also, why would they allow this which will make them loose revenue versus any Autonomous driving development have planned as part of Driver+ and their subscription plans.

 

[CTRedCanyon]

I doubt if Rivian will allow this beyond the development stage. It's a massive liability issue for them. If this becomes available, they will find a way to block it. Tesla's FSD already is getting a lot of negative attention, and Rivian would not want their brand associated with it.

Their brand isn't associated with it, and it's not really up to them. If they purposely tried to block it, that would be absolutely foolish, and probably unsuccessful. It's already compatible with hundreds of vehicles across dozens of brands: https://comma.ai/vehicles

 

[godfodder0901]

Edit: Also, why would they allow this which will make them loose revenue versus any Autonomous driving development have planned as part of Driver+ and their subscription plans.

What are you talking about? With the advent of RAP and Gen 2, Driver+ is dead as is autonomy development for Gen 1 in general.

 

[CrazyOne]

Does it really use the onboard radar? All 5 of them? I wish they had an addon Lidar option. The only true FSD system uses Lidar(Waymo)

 

[Rivianero]

Hey, this is great news. I had been introduced to comma ai with respect to the Aptera platform. Looks impressive. Will review the Rivian video you shared

Is be interested in participating/supporting but it is a bit pricey for me at the moment. Maybe I can help through software contribution.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[CTRedCanyon]

Does it really use the onboard radar? All 5 of them? I wish they had an addon Lidar option. The only true FSD system uses Lidar(Waymo)

No it won't use the Lidar as far as I know. It uses the factory cameras, radars and ultrasonic sensors, along with its own internal and external facing cameras. I'm not sure about all 5 radars but I believe it's all the inputs that the factory ADAS system gets, since it basically intercepts those signals with a Y adapter. Openpilot is more like GM Supercruise that works on any road, and less like FSD. It doesn't take turns, and not all vehicles are capable of stop sign/traffic light recognition yet. OP allows collaborative steering, which is really cool - you can steer yourself and then it will take right back over as soon as you stop, without disengaging and reengaging.

Edit: mind you, this video is the version from 4 years ago, on a lower device (Comma 2) from two generations ago, running on a now 8-year-old 2017 Honda Civic. This is what was capable all the way back in 2020.

 

[CTRedCanyon]

A more recent video:

 

[CrazyOne]

No it won't use the Lidar as far as I know. It uses the factory cameras, radars and ultrasonic sensors, along with its own internal and external facing cameras. I'm not sure about all 5 radars but I believe it's all the inputs that the factory ADAS system gets, since it basically intercepts those signals with a Y adapter. Openpilot is more like GM Supercruise that works on any road, and less like FSD. It doesn't take turns, and not all vehicles are capable of stop sign/traffic light recognition yet. OP allows collaborative steering, which is really cool - you can steer yourself and then it will take right back over as soon as you stop, without disengaging and reengaging.

Edit: mind you, this video is the version from 4 years ago, on a lower device (Comma 2) from two generations ago, running on a now 8-year-old 2017 Honda Civic. This is what was capable all the way back in 2020.

It is extremely impressive that they have been able to do what they did.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

I doubt if Rivian will allow this beyond the development stage. It's a massive liability issue for them. If this becomes available, they will find a way to block it.

Tesla's FSD already is getting a lot of negative attention, and Rivian would not want their brand associated with it.

Edit: Also, why would they allow this which will make them loose revenue versus any Autonomous driving development have planned as part of Driver+ and their subscription plans.

Here's what would happen if an accident occurred while someone was using it. Rivian has to say a third-party device was supplying the driving directions, and they would be absolved of responsibility. This device runs the vehicle outside of Rivian's software and directions. There is no difference between this and someone crashing on their own. Rivian will issue some statement saying they do not recommend using this and are not responsible for what happens and that will be all that comes of it.

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