Conflict at the Supercharger

[RivianCivilian]

I am going to make a sticker that says: My R1S identifies as a Tesla

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[Duckman]

Next time you're in Davis, swing by the Sacramento RAN Station, as it's only about 15 minutes from Davis.

Crap. I searched the Rivian app for a Sacramento RAN and nothing came up. Not the only problem I have had with the app on this trip. Thanks

 

[Vik]

There are a lot of etiquette questions for Rivian+Tesla owners and this is giving us a glimpse of what is to come.

Scenario: You roll up to a full Supercharger with a line made up of all Teslas. You are unable to utilize the end stall due to configuration (common).

A) When the next stall opens take it, but you are unable to charge and are blocking the spot. Wait for the adjacent spot to open and snag it.
B) Let people behind you go ahead of you until two stall open up adjacent to each other.
C) Wait for a stall that you can 4x4 on the landscaping where you aren't taking two stalls.
D) Go to another charging site.
E) Start fights with random Tesla owners by calling them "Hey Elon fanbois, you're about to get Musked!"

 

[LeftMySoulinNM]

I can't wait till the NACS DC extension cord is available hopefully later this Summer.

I didn’t know there was a cord coming… who is making it?

 

[HaveBlue]

With the recent cable thefts at Tesla stations, I wonder why they don't take the opportunity to put longer lines on those stations? Seems like they are exposed to the elements anyway so no harm in the cable resting partially on the ground.

I see plenty of Tesla's charging at CCS stations. Double standard I guess but I've not "yet" had an issue. I try to not block a second SC stall either by parking centered or at the end of the row. I got looks one time at EA parking in a dead stall and then grabbing the cable to the left after realizing because it worked. I didn't bother moving the car.

 

[MidnightRivian]

I see that A2Z has one .... sOOn ... but @ $300.ºº ??? Seems very expensive.

I didn’t know there was a cord coming… who is making it?

Once it's available from A2Z EV, you can use the forum discount code "RIV" to save on the cable.

I am going to try to order one as soon as it's available to review it and use it personally.

DC - Tesla (NACS) Supercharger Extension Cord | 6-9 FT (2-3 meters)

 

[HaveBlue]

Last month while Road tripping to TX for the eclipse, I got yelled at at two locations. I went to the SC by Sonic Burger in Cathedral City, CA with 8 chargers. Five were taken up when I arrived and there was no option to take the end one or handicap stall to only take up 1 stall. I ended up taking up two stalls to charge. The Teslas were pretty quick and cleared out and more came in. One guy pulled into the handicap stall and proceeded to chastise me for taking up two stalls. I was about to offer to stop my session and switch stalls with him but he could care less. He just muttered "Sucks for the next guy that has to wait."
The next night I was in Glendale, AZ and got to a 12 stall SC with only two other Teslas there. I parked in the handicap stall (I have disabled plates) which allowed me to not take up two stalls. While charging, a Tesla pulls up behind me and starts honking. I think nothing of it since there are 9 other open stalls. He backs in a couple of stalls over from me and proceeds to cuss me out. He went off how he was handicapped and uses a wheelchair and I was in HIS stall. He went off how I don't belong there and to go charge at my own station. I could have easily got out and plugged him in but after his rant I told him to take it up with Elon and that Ford and Rivian were already allowed to charge there and more companies were on their way. Second pic shows the handicap stall where I parked my Rivian the night before. You could see that the other guy had plenty of options to park and charge.

Actually you blocked two stations unnecessarily. You could have parked in the stall in between the lines more right and centered with the stall and simply used the one in front. That is a new "centered" design and the cable reaches, FYI.

 

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Once it's available from A2Z EV, you can use the forum discount code "RIV" to save on the cable.

I am going to try to order one as soon as it's available to review it and use it personally.

DC - Tesla (NACS) Supercharger Extension Cord | 6-9 FT (2-3 meters)

If there is still 50% magnitude uncertainty as to the final dimensions then mass production is still pretty far off. Rivian's version of Soon must be contagious. Or at least I hope so. I really hope they spend a while testing after they settle on what they expect is the final design.

Or are they just covering their bases for when the quality control is so poor that some end up 2 meters and others end up 3.

 

[Glembi2]

I’m glad no one has suggested the passive aggressive, premeditated approach of carrying around a large bag with an out-of-order label and putting it over the blocked charger. Maybe throw in a few traffic cones. That would be evil.

Knowing that Rivian will be opening up RANs to other vehicles including Teslas, won’t all non-Tesla drivers experience Teslas taking up 2 stalls? Or are cables at RAN sites longer?

 

[LivingInKaos]

If there is still 50% magnitude uncertainty as to the final dimensions then mass production is still pretty far off. Rivian's version of Soon must be contagious. Or at least I hope so. I really hope they spend a while testing after they settle on what they expect is the final design.

Or are they just covering their bases for when the quality control is so poor that some end up 2 meters and others end up 3.

It's more about the wire options and passive cooling can afford. Even though the V3 TSC's are rated at 250kw max, the duty cycle is very short (7-10 min in my usage results), then it derates to 350A. Sustaining 500A in a 2-3m cable would require a wire size that most people wouldn't want to carry or handle. My guess is they are going to use an active control to keep the extension cord limited to 350A to keep it manageable. There's a bit of testing that will need to happen with these, more so than just the adapters.

 

[White Shadow]

Although it does make me want to start charging at SC locations exclusively with the hopes of pissing off charming people like Mr. Muscles. ?

Exactly the wrong attitude. The amount of likes on your comment saddens me.

 

[COdogman]

Exactly the wrong attitude. The amount of likes on your comment saddens me.

I’m sorry the prospect of me showing up at a Tesla SC that we were given access to (by Tesla) and following the exact directions provided for charging (by Tesla) causes you sadness.

 

[dl4060]

I agree that it sucks you had to deal with that guy but I must ask, why didn't you go to the closer EA station? Only 3 of 4 working means 3 are working and you can charge there just fine.

Last summer, while driving from Newport Beach to the UP in Michigan, I had lots of bad experiences at EA chargers. At this point I really don't trust them.

The summer of 2022 I did the same drive when I still had my Tesla. The difference in reliability between Tesla and EA was substantial. I can certainly understand why someone would choose Tesla over EA.

 

[gultin]

I’m sorry this happened.

Although it does make me want to start charging at SC locations exclusively with the hopes of pissing off charming people like Mr. Muscles. ?

Non-Teslas charging en masse at Superchargers is perhaps the most effective way to normalize the situation and reset expectations for uninformed Tesla owners.

Just do it like a Band-Aid. One motion. Right off! ?

 

[COdogman]

Non-Teslas charging en masse at Superchargers is perhaps the most effective way to normalize the situation and reset expectations for uninformed Tesla owners.

Just do it like a Band-Aid. One motion. Right off! ?

Maybe as a group we should go on a cross country tour, stopping at superchargers with our Rivians en masse. We could get our vehicles wrapped with a message like “Hi, my name is Rivian and I’m your new neighbor”?

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