Will our configs be locked now?

[Gshenderson]

So long as the skid plate and powered tonneau cover are still “included” with LE, and charger remains at $500, I will keep it as is. If any of those maintain the updated pricing, I will drop them.

Footnote: The pricing on the tonneau cover made me laugh. I said to myself “they can’t get the damn thing to work so they are just gonna price it so high that no one will buy it - problem solved! ? ”.

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[Mcdubjr]

I don't think they know how they're going to undo all of this. It's a big, big messy ball of yarn to untangle.

My guess is they will allow changes but it has to be done through CS or a guide, or you get the increased price. Not sure how they'd make the configurator work correctly otherwise.

But hard to say.

Yeah, as a software developer this seems like a nightmare to manage to me. But maybe their configurator is super flexible.

 

[TacoMcDonut]

For what it's worth, CS told me not only could we make changes, we can also change the model itself, just like we used to be able to. Who knows if this will hold though.

 

[Mcdubjr]

For what it's worth, CS told me not only could we make changes, we can also change the model itself, just like we used to be able to. Who knows if this will hold though.

Hopefully that holds! Can I also switch to FE from OC since they are now the same value? A guy can dream can’t he! ?

 

[Forager]

Counterpoint: take your quad at current price and sell in in 2024 while downgrading to the quad for a net financial gain.

Unfortunately 10.5% WA sales tax kills that. Unless I trade the vehicle to a dealer, I have to pay full sales tax. Even if Rivian gave me $90k trade-in value on a quad-motor they sold me for $74k, I’d break even while having a lower trim model. To sell it on the open market, Id have to sell for $98k to break even.

The tax credit might sway this, but probably only if delivery dates continue to be years out and someone doesn’t care about paying a $10k premium AND losing the $7.5k credit.

Eh, I’ll just eat my cake.

 

[kurtlikevonnegut]

Unfortunately 10.5% WA sales tax kills that. Unless I trade the vehicle to a dealer, I have to pay full sales tax. Even if Rivian gave me $90k trade-in value on a quad-motor they sold me for $74k, I’d break even while having a lower trim model. To sell it on the open market, Id have to sell for $98k to break even.

The tax credit might sway this, but probably only if delivery dates continue to be years out and someone doesn’t care about paying a $10k premium AND losing the $7.5k credit.

Eh, I’ll just eat my cake.

Damn that sucks. SC caps new car sales tax at $500 and doesn't charge income tax on the sale of a vehicle so I'll be golden.

 

[thrill]

Damn that sucks. SC caps new car sales tax at $500 and doesn't charge income tax on the sale of a vehicle so I'll be golden.

There's a reason a lot of corporate jet sales take place in SC.

 

[Gsxr150]

Counterpoint: take your quad at current price and sell in in 2024 while downgrading to the quad for a net financial gain.

Respectfully, I'm not sure why you guys keep assuming there's a market for a $90K+ Rivian truck!1? Just yesterday there was a MASSIVE TIDAL WAVE of cancelations citing, "Rivian just priced me out...I'm canceling". AND, that's assuming they could have easily gone with a lower-end model (which they had no interest in). Don't tell me you were all pissed off at Rivan...most of it was the truck was too expensive for you (me too).

What the he** plant are you guys living on thinking you're going to flip these trucks for massive profits? There wasn't anyone lined up for a 90K truck yesterday, and there isn't today. How many fully loaded pre-orders do you think will sign up from today forward?

 

[paariv]

Respectfully, I'm not sure why you guys keep assuming there's a market for a $90K+ Rivian truck!1? Just yesterday there was a MASSIVE TIDAL WAVE of cancelations citing, "Rivian just priced me out...I'm canceling". AND, that's assuming they could have easily gone with a lower-end model (which they had no interest in). Don't tell me you were all pissed off at Rivan...most of it was the truck was too expensive for you (me too).

What the he** plant are you guys living on thinking you're going to flip these trucks for massive profits? There wasn't anyone lined up for a 90K truck yesterday, and there isn't today. How many fully loaded pre-orders do you think will sign up from today forward?

This has been discussed to death. They are severely production constrained and would have sold out for 1-2 years even at the higher price and lower volume.

Couple that with the fact that any new orders placed today are 20k+ more and require a 2-year wait and you get a situation where someone who hasn’t yet ordered can pay the new price to an early preordered and get their Rivian immediately at zero premium to the price they’ll end up paying in 2 years.

So yes, people can flip them for a profit upon delivery now.

 

[kurtlikevonnegut]

This has been discussed to death. They are severely production constrained and would have sold out for 1-2 years even at the higher price and lower volume.

Couple that with the fact that any new orders placed today are 20k+ more and require a 2-year wait and you get a situation where someone who hasn’t yet ordered can get their Rivian immediately at zero premium to the price they’ll end up paying in 2 years.

So yes, people can flip them for a profit upon delivery now.

Not going to respond directly to the Tesla troll but this is it exactly. My R1T will cost me $75k but anyone who purchases a Rivian after 3/1 will pay $90k for that same truck with an earliest delivery in 2024. My point is that, if I so choose, I can sell my R1T in 2024 for at least what I paid for it and downgrade to a newer lesser equipped R1T that will be available starting in 2024 while potentially turning a profit.

 

[Inkedsphynx]

Respectfully, I'm not sure why you guys keep assuming there's a market for a $90K+ Rivian truck!1? Just yesterday there was a MASSIVE TIDAL WAVE of cancelations citing, "Rivian just priced me out...I'm canceling". AND, that's assuming they could have easily gone with a lower-end model (which they had no interest in). Don't tell me you were all pissed off at Rivan...most of it was the truck was too expensive for you (me too).

What the he** plant are you guys living on thinking you're going to flip these trucks for massive profits? There wasn't anyone lined up for a 90K truck yesterday, and there isn't today. How many fully loaded pre-orders do you think will sign up from today forward?

Let the horse die. You're wrong.

Perfect example - I was still lined up yesterday at 104k. Plenty of others were too. So yes, there were people lined up for a 90k truck yesterday, and there are even more today (my config will drop back down to 90k even basically).

 

[thrill]

This has been discussed to death. They are severely production constrained and would have sold out for 1-2 years even at the higher price and lower volume.

Couple that with the fact that any new orders placed today are 20k+ more and require a 2-year wait and you get a situation where someone who hasn’t yet ordered can get their Rivian immediately at zero premium to the price they’ll end up paying in 2 years.

So yes, people can flip them for a profit upon delivery now.

I suspect people will be able to flip them (the LE's) for a premium in 2 years also.

 

[zefram47]

I've been wondering how they'd implement these changes. I know that when they finally offer a winch I'd like to be able to add it without being forced into the current pricing scheme. Maybe they'll apply a "discount" for the current options that went up so you can still play with the configuration and keep the old prices. Then for newly available options it would just be at the current price for those options, leaving the rest of the truck the original price.

 

[Gsxr150]

This has been discussed to death. They are severely production constrained and would have sold out for 1-2 years even at the higher price and lower volume.

Couple that with the fact that any new orders placed today are 20k+ more and require a 2-year wait and you get a situation where someone who hasn’t yet ordered can get their Rivian immediately at zero premium to the price they’ll end up paying in 2 years.

So yes, people can flip them for a profit upon delivery now.

Trust me, I hope that's the case. But yesterday frightened me.

Back on topic...the OP has a GREAT point here. It feels like Rivian should lock people into their truck choice Adventure/Explorer, but let them continue to decide on color and interior. Easy fix.

 

[Inkedsphynx]

I've been wondering how they'd implement these changes. I know that when they finally offer a winch I'd like to be able to add it without being forced into the current pricing scheme. Maybe they'll apply a "discount" for the current options that went up so you can still play with the configuration and keep the old prices. Then for newly available options it would just be at the current price for those options, leaving the rest of the truck the original price.

I'm fully expecting to pay an increased rate for the winch when it comes out compared to what pricing would have been were it released a few weeks ago. I'm fine with that. So long as the price isn't astronomical compared to a potential aftermarket solution, I'll take the peace of mind of having Rivian install it themselves and, hopefully, offer a warranty/insurance on both the gear and the install.

The reality is, for anyone intending to do serious offroading, a winch is about as close to a must-have as possible, unless you're always in the company of others (I am not, since I'm an anti-social tech nerd).

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