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has anyone tried this for their 12 volt system, can we charge via the back port that is used to jump 12 volt system with a standard trickle charge unit used for car batteries? or is the only way to take off the front cover ?
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Lots of photos of my trickle charger install here:
@NY_Rob - I know you sold your first Rivian (I believe you'll be back someday), but I, for one, really appreciate your Rivian knowledge and continued active participation in the forum. Thanks!
 

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@NY_Rob - I know you sold your first Rivian (I believe you'll be back someday), but I, for one, really appreciate your Rivian knowledge and continued active participation in the forum. Thanks!
Thank you, I appreciate that!

I do have an R2 reservation and I have quite a bit of Rivian stock as well. So, I do support the company and do see myself coming back if the R2 shakes out to be what everyone hopes it will be. It seems some here think I betrayed Rivian by selling mine and getting the Rubicon, but as my wife can attest to... I pretty much change vehicles every two years, simple as that.

Most importantly.. I kept my Rivian ball cap, read into that what you may ;)
 

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I put my 12v on a trickle charge last night, and it really wasn't too bad. Just pop the cowl cover off and the driver side red cap (mine is a later revision with the single battery/capacitor).

I left it on the charger all day/night and the Optima 400 charger is still only showing 75%, which is pretty odd given the battery's overall size. I would have expected the battery to show 100% and maintaining/conditioning by morning. I do have a current 12V warning so possibly the battery has internal issues.

Rivian R1T R1S trickle charge 12 volt IMG_3888
 

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^ the good news is that at least your maintainer is able to "keep up" with losses and is only putting out 1.7 amps out of a possible 4 amps. It should be able to top of your battery soon. If it was showing 4 amps, at 14.3 volts that would be bad.
 

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Putting your 12V on a trickle charge doesn't really make sense to me. The HV battery is already doing that as needed. It would be like trickle charging an ICE vehicle while the engine is running and alternator is functioning.
 

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Putting your 12V on a trickle charge doesn't really make sense to me. The HV battery is already doing that as needed. It would be like trickle charging an ICE vehicle while the engine is running and alternator is functioning.
That was my thought as well. Why are people doing this?
 

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Seems like these tests were on gen1. If you look for the recent thread showing the differences, you'll see they say gen2 can be float charged from the pigtails, implying gen1 cannot.
 

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Putting your 12V on a trickle charge doesn't really make sense to me. The HV battery is already doing that as needed. It would be like trickle charging an ICE vehicle while the engine is running and alternator is functioning.
For me, because I have a current 12v battery warning and don't want the 12v to die and leave me stranded until it can get replaced by service. I agree, the HV should act as an alternator but something is clearly amiss on a 1 year old car. "Restoring" the battery as much as possible with a battery conditioner/optima charger was just a test. I also wanted to see what the charger determined as the current percentage and whether it was able to improve state of charge - it did not seem to do much though. When I connected it was showing 75% charge and remained that way after 14-16 hours I would estimate.
 

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That was my thought as well. Why are people doing this?
The hypothesis is that waking up the HV battery to trickle charge the 12V has A LOT of electrical overhead (running computers, etc) and that leads in some cases to the very significant vampire drain many are seeing. So the battery maintainer in theory should require the vehicle to wake up far less and minimize vampire drain. The reader can calculate the monetary and environmental cost of 1-2% vampire loss per day over time, assuming the battery maintainer minimized vampire drain.
 

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Putting your 12V on a trickle charge doesn't really make sense to me. The HV battery is already doing that as needed. It would be like trickle charging an ICE vehicle while the engine is running and alternator is functioning.
The theory here is that the DC-to-DC charger from the HV to the 12V battery, would STOP charging when drawing too much current for too long in order to protect the HV battery and it's charging circuitry.

When that happens, then your 12V will be drained and your car will shutoff. That's how and why many of us found our R1T 'dead/bricked' one day :)

My HV battery state of charge was 69% when it died, so plenty of juice to still keep the 12V charged but a failsafe device kicked to avoid further discharge and voilá! :)
 

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The theory here is that the DC-to-DC charger from the HV to the 12V battery, would STOP charging when drawing too much current for too long in order to protect the HV battery and it's charging circuitry.

When that happens, then your 12V will be drained and your car will shutoff. That's how and why many of us found our R1T 'dead/bricked' one day :)

My HV battery state of charge was 69% when it died, so plenty of juice to still keep the 12V charged but a failsafe device kicked to avoid further discharge and voilá! :)
In the instances you're referring to, those are problems with the battery themselves and not the HV etc. So even if the battery was still on a trickle charge, the same problem would occur because the 12v battery fell below voltage window due to either lifespan or in many of Rivians cases, bad batching.
 

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I use an OBD 2 port adapter to my Battery Tender for my Gen 1 (single 12V battery) R1S. Prior to connection, my R1S would have a VD of 1 to 2% (sometimes more) per night and would wake up every few hours. Now, it sleeps for 12-24 hrs or more and the VD is around 0.2 to 0.4%. This method works great if the vehicle is garaged.

https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-081-0154-DL-Connector-Maintainers/dp/B007KJ2RZK

There is a very LENGTHY thread (29 pages!) discussing all the possible solutions to resolve VD, keeping the 12V battery topped up (even when new) seems to be the solution for Gen 1 vehicles.

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...ly-solved-or-hacked.31506/page-23#post-621430
 
 








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