Potential New Owner

[magesh]

'Morning

As the title says, potential new owner & have Qs.

About me: I'll be trading out my Lucid AGT(3.5 years of ownership) for TriMax, if we decide to move forward. I have owned a couple of MS as an early adopter as well.

Primary reason for change: Lucid AGT software reliability.(Don't want to bring out the dirty laundry in this forum).

1) I understand from what I read, Rivian's software is a lot more stable than Lucid. However, with that said, what are the most annoying software gremlins the owners have faced?
2) Build quality: I have read about suspension issues. Are they common across the board? Panel gaps? How is the build quality? I understand, after owning multiple vehicles, things do fall apart, but would like to get insight of anything that is more common than not.
3) Test drove Dual and Tri. Same road, same drive settings, same test route, but the tri felt more comfortable. We could feel the road on the dual, but the tri was more comfortable. Does the tri have 'better' suspension? Or is it the seats on the tri that much better?

4) For current owners: If you had to replace your R1S, what will you replace it with today?
5) For any Lucid transplants, here, please DM your opinions. What you liked and disliked?

Our goal, if we switch, is to get an EV. We have owned ICE German cars and brand loyalty is not high on the list for me. Storage space is important (Lucid does this best imo), and a reliable drive. Staying away from MB for now. Audi & BMW are option.

Concerned if I jump from Lucid to Rivian, will it be akin to from fire into boiling oil?

Thank you all in advance. I'm sure I will have more Qs based on the responses.

Happy hols
Magesh

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[Nadus]

I'm also a potential future Rivian owner, but wanted to say I was bummed when Engineering Explained did his recent video about all the problems he's had after switching from Tesla to Lucid. Lucid has so much potential, but it seems they're missing the trees for the forest.

 

[ec2027]

'Morning

As the title says, potential new owner & have Qs.

About me: I'll be trading out my Lucid AGT(3.5 years of ownership) for TriMax, if we decide to move forward. I have owned a couple of MS as an early adopter as well.

Primary reason for change: Lucid AGT software reliability.(Don't want to bring out the dirty laundry in this forum).

1) I understand from what I read, Rivian's software is a lot more stable than Lucid. However, with that said, what are the most annoying software gremlins the owners have faced?
2) Build quality: I have read about suspension issues. Are they common across the board? Panel gaps? How is the build quality? I understand, after owning multiple vehicles, things do fall apart, but would like to get insight of anything that is more common than not.
3) Test drove Dual and Tri. Same road, same drive settings, same test route, but the tri felt more comfortable. We could feel the road on the dual, but the tri was more comfortable. Does the tri have 'better' suspension? Or is it the seats on the tri that much better?

4) For current owners: If you had to replace your R1S, what will you replace it with today?
5) For any Lucid transplants, here, please DM your opinions. What you liked and disliked?

Our goal, if we switch, is to get an EV. We have owned ICE German cars and brand loyalty is not high on the list for me. Storage space is important (Lucid does this best imo), and a reliable drive. Staying away from MB for now. Audi & BMW are option.

Concerned if I jump from Lucid to Rivian, will it be akin to from fire into boiling oil?

Thank you all in advance. I'm sure I will have more Qs based on the responses.

Happy hols
Magesh

Minor glitches with the road cam not turning on, proximity sensors take a bit to warm up, in previous updated the vehicle wouldn't shift to easy access seating or set the right profile when multiple users are in the vehicle. As of the recent update I haven't had as many issues and most usually resolve with a soft reset (I'd say I average 1 every 2-3 months).

Build quality is overall good for mine, no rubbing or anything that reached the level for me to take it to a service center. Mine has been in twice in 20K miles (18 months), both times for recalls.

Suspension should be the same but the tires may have been different, was the dual on All-Terrains?

Tough sell, I'd probably have to evaluate if we want to keep an EV or not, we preferred the space and footprint of the Rivian and weren't sold on an electric car so we primarily cross-shopped with the Kia Telluride. We came from a BMW X1.

 

[COdogman]

I drive an R1T so I can’t say what I would replace an S with, but I know there isn’t any other EV truck I’d be interested in.

I don’t ever expect software to be perfect indefinitely, and a software defined vehicle is its own category. Others have had more trouble, but I would say any issues I’ve had were minor - sometimes a reset is required because the exterior cameras or sensors aren’t working. Other issues are app related, like Apple Music doing weird things. Overall I feel Rivian software is good. Not perfect, but solid.

Build quality on my 2023 was excellent all around. In 2+ years I’ve only had 1 service visit outside of the regular maintenance check-ups. No suspension issues. Others have shared evidence of real issues, even some resulting in buybacks.

I still believe the majority of Rivian owners are happy, which is supported by owner satisfaction ratings (vs overall reliability, which is still expectedly low). They still have a lot of room to improve, especially in service capacity. They are making progress in that area. I would say take with a grain of salt the stories from a forum, both good and bad. If it’s the right vehicle for you then go for it…

 

[antimatter]

Likewise, until there's an EV compact truck, I can't see myself replacing my R1T. I might consider a Silverado or Sierra EV, but commuting in a full-sized truck would be a PITA, especially parking in my company's ramp. Honestly, I'd probably buy the cheapest used ICE truck I could find to tide me over until there were more BEV options in the class. I have zero interest in either hybrid or EREV trucks, as I think they're over-complicated marketing gimmicks just waiting to be made obsolete by better battery tech.

 

[TTedP]

'Morning

As the title says, potential new owner & have Qs.

About me: I'll be trading out my Lucid AGT(3.5 years of ownership) for TriMax, if we decide to move forward. I have owned a couple of MS as an early adopter as well.

Primary reason for change: Lucid AGT software reliability.(Don't want to bring out the dirty laundry in this forum).

1) I understand from what I read, Rivian's software is a lot more stable than Lucid. However, with that said, what are the most annoying software gremlins the owners have faced?
2) Build quality: I have read about suspension issues. Are they common across the board? Panel gaps? How is the build quality? I understand, after owning multiple vehicles, things do fall apart, but would like to get insight of anything that is more common than not.
3) Test drove Dual and Tri. Same road, same drive settings, same test route, but the tri felt more comfortable. We could feel the road on the dual, but the tri was more comfortable. Does the tri have 'better' suspension? Or is it the seats on the tri that much better?

4) For current owners: If you had to replace your R1S, what will you replace it with today?
5) For any Lucid transplants, here, please DM your opinions. What you liked and disliked?

Our goal, if we switch, is to get an EV. We have owned ICE German cars and brand loyalty is not high on the list for me. Storage space is important (Lucid does this best imo), and a reliable drive. Staying away from MB for now. Audi & BMW are option.

Concerned if I jump from Lucid to Rivian, will it be akin to from fire into boiling oil?

Thank you all in advance. I'm sure I will have more Qs based on the responses.

Happy hols
Magesh

Welcome!

1. Only minor stuff; some infotainment glitches, losing settings, driver assistance items erroring out occasionally - all fixed with a quick soft reset. I know a lot of folks compare to Tesla and gripe but IMO, the SW and features are very good, especially when compared to legacy auto.

2. I had a Gen 1 R1T and now a Gen 2 R1S. For me, it was a noticeable improvement in build quality. Much better initial fit on panels. Some of the common rattles from the Gen 1 (center dash!), not present in this Gen 2. Having said that, there are still some rattles and wind noises I find myself chasing down. I came from German cars and little things they do on fit and sound deadening (better seals, felt in places, etc) are still missing on the Rivians. But if you like to tinker it doesn't take much to make it quieter. From a mechanical build quality, my Gen 2 feels very good. The drive and ride quality is much better than my Gen 1 was.

3. Not sure, I only have DM Performance and DM is plenty.

4. First choice, probably another R1S or maybe go back to the R1T (I miss the gear tunnel and bed of the T but prefer the back seat legroom of the S). If I had to go ICE, probably the Toyota Land Cruiser ("good enough"). I'd also take a look at the new BMW EV's if I didnt plan to off-road. Owned many BMWs and was always happy with the experience.

 

[TTedP]

I have zero interest in either hybrid or EREV trucks, as I think they're over-complicated marketing gimmicks just waiting to be made obsolete by better battery tech.

OT but agreed! Either go full BEV or full ICE. As Nucky Thompson said, "you cant be a half-way gangster"

 

[beatle]

1) Software is mostly fine. Some streaming issues and wifi connectivity issues still come around, but they've made improvements in the past 3-4 months.

2) Mine still has suspension noise after going back twice. It's more of a "this sounds broken" noise than it is a functional problem. I have a rattle in the left B-pillar or door that is no longer covered under warranty, so that's annoying. Service takes forever and this is a lease, so I will probably just live with it until there's something more serious that it needs.

3) Must be a wheel/tire difference. Seats and suspension are the same in all trucks.

4) I have an R1T. I'll probably replace it with a Slate or maybe a Maverick unless there's another more compelling small truck available soon. The R1T isn't as long as most full size trucks, but it's just as wide, and nearly as tall. Parking in the garage at work is a hassle, as are a lot of parking lots with narrow spaces. I can generally always fit between the lines, but that doesn't mean some clown isn't going to slam their door into you (this happened within 6 months of ownership). I would have considered an R2T if Rivian were planning one, but they're not.

 

[TexasBob]

'Morning

As the title says, potential new owner & have Qs.

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Be prepared to get energy & range shock moving from Lucid to RIvian. The highway efficiency on our R1S is at 1.9 mi/kwh cold weather worst I've had and 2.4 mi/kwh perfect day. The math on 141 kwh usable is uncompromising. Even on an ideal 500 mile road trip you need to reload 210 kwh and at $0.50 that is both slow (150 kw avg) and expensive. We like everything else about the vehicle but assuming you are coming from the Lucid at least in part because you want the efficiency, iX3 is a good option if you can wait six months.


We like most everything else about the truck. (Oh, that is the other thing: its a truck. I am surprised that people are surprised by this. It rides like a truck, handles like a truck, and can take pretty much anything you can throw at it like a truck. But it ain't no crossover.)

 

[iansriv]

2023 R1S Quad

1. No s/w issues thus far.
2. Solid build quality from day 1.
3. Bit surprised on the difference between the dual and tri.
4. If I were to replace my 835HP quad, it definitely would be with the G2 1,025HP quad. One can never have too much HP.
5. Not sure why you're seeking other Lucid owner opinions as you have first-hand experience.

If you're concerned about "jumping out of the frying pan into the fire" don't do it. I say this because some come to the purchase decision with bias from prior experiences. That will inevitably lead to disappointment. All the best.

 

[CrazyOne]

Most annoying problem by far is lock/unlock reliability. I have a Gen 1, so I don't know if this is fully resolved in G2.

Suspension is slightly noisy, but works great. Test drive the exact tire/wheel and mode you want to use and make sure you like it. I love mine in AP mode at standard or low heights. Rivian does not offer it, but 20 inch wheels with all seasons would ride like a dream. You can get 20 inch wheels and change tires.

Others are minor issues and I will find minor issues in every single car out there.

 

[beatle]

Rivian does not offer it, but 20 inch wheels with all seasons would ride like a dream. You can get 20 inch wheels and change tires.

They do offer 20" all seasons, but only on the lowest trim. They may be willing to swap wheels if you ask, especially since this is technically a downgrade. My truck was in inventory and they let me swap the standard ATs for the darks.

 

[CrazyOne]

They do offer 20" all seasons, but only on the lowest trim. They may be willing to swap wheels if you ask, especially since this is technically a downgrade. My truck was in inventory and they let me swap the standard ATs for the darks.

That's great . I think this should have been the default option.

 

[usulio]

1. Software is fine, some features missing like voice to text and an odometer. Door auto unlock is often slow and unpredictable.

2. the car works great. No water gets in so I guess the panel gaps are fine

3. Agree with the person who said size of tires is most likely the difference (small wheels and big tires are less sporty but more comfortable. Or maybe suspension settings in software.)

4. There’s nothing like the R1S. Not being able to match my pre order pricing I don’t know what I’d do. But will be looking at Scout

I agree with the guy who said it’s a truck. A big heavy truck. It also has inconveniences like difficulty of accessing the third row. But it’s great at hauling stuff and adventures.

 

[krb1183]

Welcome!
1. I don't have many gripes, sometimes on startup I'd get a cameras or sensors not working. I can do a reset or just carry on and it resolves itself. But pretty rare I guess. Sirius XM seems to be slow to connect at times, not sure if it's a Riv thing or XM, but not the biggest deal to me.
2. I had a wire harness issue shortly after delivery, actually didn't become a known issue until the weather started to get colder, was eventually found after a few different service visits and now been trouble free for a year so far.
3. Should be same now, but tires make a huge difference in comfort or noise.
4. Not sure. Would want another R1S, that's probably my first choice, but I'd be interested in seeing what Scout launches.

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