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Hey everyone,

Just got 2023.46 installed. Here are the characteristics of the new feature;

  • New lane change visualizations
    • When you turn on your blinker, your current lane will remain highlighted blue
    • When you begin to move the steering wheel, the blue lane will shrink to a rectangle surrounding your vehicle with an arrow pointing in the direction of your merge.
  • The steering wheel BARELY resists a lane change now (used to need to forcefully disengage, but now it holds it just enough to keep your lane until you actually start to move over)
  • Driver+ will NOT reengage until you've safely slowed into the middle of your desired lane. This means that if you want, you can merge 4 lanes in one motion, and it won't reengage until you've slowed into the middle of the 4th lane.
  • Once you're centered, you'll here 2 chimes instead of 3, signaling that auto-steer has reengaged, and the lane goes blue again.

Here's video of me testing the feature, and inadvertently learning about that third bullet point by careening towards the median ?

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Are you the installation I just saw on Electrify? Wasn't snooping, I swear. Was just browsing and considering signing up. Saw there were 2 or 3 installations so far.
 
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Are you the installation I just saw on Electrify? Wasn't snooping, I swear. Was just browsing and considering signing up. Saw there were 2 or 3 installations so far.
Probably ?. I just finished installing it about an hour ago. I was surprised I was in the first batch this round. Took the plunge, despite the 2023.42 nightmare, lol
 

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Awesome! The whole lane change process is the biggest reason that I don't use driver+. That looks usable.
 

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My experience with Driver+ from Vancouver to Hope last weekend was pretty solid, honestly. This additional feature makes it that much better, and definitely seems like a prelude to auto lane change.
 

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R1S, still waiting for the update. Thanks for the info.
with blind spot camera, this will be a very convenient feature.
 

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Could someone test this scenario please?

You are driving 70 mph. You begin approaching a vehicle in your lane that is going around 60 and Rivian begins slowing down. You signal left to move to the left lane and then steer to the left lane.

The question is this: How response is the system to resuming to you set cruise speed (70 in this case).

My biggest frustration with the Rivian is that it is far to slow to speed back up to set speed. The more traffic there is the less useful the Rivian cruise is due to ongoing merges.

Our old Subaru Outback does this incredibly well.
 
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Could someone test this scenario please?

You are driving 70 mph. You begin approaching a vehicle in your lane that is going around 60 and Rivian begins slowing down. You signal left to move to the left lane and then steer to the left lane.

The question is this: How response is the system to resuming to you set cruise speed (70 in this case).

My biggest frustration with the Rivian is that it is far to slow to speed back up to set speed. The more traffic there is the less useful the Rivian cruise is due to ongoing merges.

Our old Subaru Outback does this incredibly well.
I'm not slated to go driving today, but I will definitely keep an eye out for this in case it goes unanswered.
 

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Could someone test this scenario please?

You are driving 70 mph. You begin approaching a vehicle in your lane that is going around 60 and Rivian begins slowing down. You signal left to move to the left lane and then steer to the left lane.

The question is this: How response is the system to resuming to you set cruise speed (70 in this case).

My biggest frustration with the Rivian is that it is far to slow to speed back up to set speed. The more traffic there is the less useful the Rivian cruise is due to ongoing merges.

Our old Subaru Outback does this incredibly well.
Agree this is an opportunity for improvement. My remedy has been to use foot accelerator to override the cruise control's "slow down"... or you have to change lanes much earlier than what is intuitive to avoid the vehicle detection slow down.
 

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Hey everyone,

Just got 2023.46 installed. Here are the characteristics of the new feature;

  • New lane change visualizations
    • When you turn on your blinker, your current lane will remain highlighted blue
    • When you begin to move the steering wheel, the blue lane will shrink to a rectangle surrounding your vehicle with an arrow pointing in the direction of your merge.
  • The steering wheel BARELY resists a lane change now (used to need to forcefully disengage, but now it holds it just enough to keep your lane until you actually start to move over)
  • Driver+ will NOT reengage until you've safely slowed into the middle of your desired lane. This means that if you want, you can merge 4 lanes in one motion, and it won't reengage until you've slowed into the middle of the 4th lane.
  • Once you're centered, you'll here 2 chimes instead of 3, signaling that auto-steer has reengaged, and the lane goes blue again.

Here's video of me testing the feature, and inadvertently learning about that third bullet point by careening towards the median ?

The careening or oversteer towards median- was this due to you looking at the screen vs. road?
 

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This is great! little things better and better every month for the last year.
 
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The careening or oversteer towards median- was this due to you looking at the screen vs. road?
No, sorry, to clarify; I was expecting it to lock itself into the center of the lane. I felt like I was merging slow enough that it would just grab the steering wheel and resume, but I found out that it won't resume until your trajectory matches the center line of the road.

Here's some professional illustration of the concept ?:

Rivian R1T R1S 2023.46 Lane Change Characteristics 1701971263588
 

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  • The steering wheel BARELY resists a lane change now (used to need to forcefully disengage, but now it holds it just enough to keep your lane until you actually start to move over
Is there any difference in how touchy it is when you nudge over within your lane and how strongly it holds you in the lane when you don't signal?

I'm thinking of one instance where I was on a rightwards curve next to a semi that drifted towards me. I nudged the truck over and Driver+ disengaged abruptly and I almost over-corrected into the median. Driver+ currently exerts a lot of torque on the steering wheel and it can be scary when it disengages and there is suddenly zero resistance.

My Ford's BlueCruise was much more natural in this respect and the newest update is even supposed to nudge you over in your lane when you're next to a semi.
 

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Hey everyone,

Just got 2023.46 installed. Here are the characteristics of the new feature;

  • New lane change visualizations
    • When you turn on your blinker, your current lane will remain highlighted blue
    • When you begin to move the steering wheel, the blue lane will shrink to a rectangle surrounding your vehicle with an arrow pointing in the direction of your merge.
  • The steering wheel BARELY resists a lane change now (used to need to forcefully disengage, but now it holds it just enough to keep your lane until you actually start to move over)
  • Driver+ will NOT reengage until you've safely slowed into the middle of your desired lane. This means that if you want, you can merge 4 lanes in one motion, and it won't reengage until you've slowed into the middle of the 4th lane.
  • Once you're centered, you'll here 2 chimes instead of 3, signaling that auto-steer has reengaged, and the lane goes blue again.

Here's video of me testing the feature, and inadvertently learning about that third bullet point by careening towards the median ?

From your video it seems the left turn signal did not auto-cancel till Driver+ was activated. The signal should have auto-canceled when the car's right side crossed the right lane marker
 

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Is there any difference in how touchy it is when you nudge over within your lane and how strongly it holds you in the lane when you don't signal?

I'm thinking of one instance where I was on a rightwards curve next to a semi that drifted towards me. I nudged the truck over and Driver+ disengaged abruptly and I almost over-corrected into the median. Driver+ currently exerts a lot of torque on the steering wheel and it can be scary when it disengages and there is suddenly zero resistance.

My Ford's BlueCruise was much more natural in this respect and the newest update is even supposed to nudge you over in your lane when you're next to a semi.
I also have BlueCruise (only 1.0 right now) and it is much smoother when you override it, barely noticeable. If you turn off the lane keeping assist (non HWA mode) in the Rivian, it is better. When you use the blinker it does not apply the assist when changing lanes, it does cut the torque fight in that case.
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