As someone who's driven in mountains a lot, it's worth noting unless you really get a particularly bad stretch(250 mi up hill) the range goes a long way in the mountains. Generally going slower, and a lot of times the end of trip is all down hill. I actually made it to Eisenhower Tunnel out of denver into mountains with like 4 mi of range and then pulled into charger at Frisco with like 22 mi.
Thanks. I have used a few sites to find potential charging stops but I don't think I've used that one. That drive is very nice, hot springs in the area and plenty of hiking. I'm still planning on getting the R2 as I explore my options.As a general point, not every public charger (DC or L2) that you can use is included in Rivian's route planner or ABRP. For example, there's a level 2 site at Southfork Lodge on the road up to Stanley on PlugShare that's not on Rivian's map and is well-reviewed; just be sure you have a J1772 to NACS adapter with you. It's not going to save you total charging time but it does give you options to do things at different locations for less time at each one.
And while I know this is an illustrative example, I plugged the round trip into ABRP and starting from 100% on Boise and allowing a 10% buffer on return, and using a 2.9 mi/kWh reference consumption at 65 mph it estimated that you'd arrive at 40–43% depending on whether you picked the northern or southern route and need to charge for just over an hour at the RV park to get back. Even if it's off a little, 2 hours at the RV park would do it—or an hour at Southfork Lodge and then an hour at the RV park or Redfish Lake Lodge.
Longer term hopefully the economics of DC fast charging make 50+ kW charging more accessible in rural areas; unfortunately small-site battery-backed DC charging so far has mostly been a graveyard of startup failures so far, but they should eventually get there.
This kind of relates to what I was just mentioning, you may arrive at 30% but going home you may use near zero, some of this is just getting used to your car and capabilitiesThat's what im struggling with. If charging at this speed gets us 30 miles per hour I'm looking at 4 hours of charging to get back home. If we're lucky and there is a good trail we can manage but if we're stuck sitting next to a slow charger that's not really practical. Others have said an extra 15 minute of charging here and there, that's not what I'm struggling with.
I wish there were more chargers remote areas. I can't help but think others have a similar or worse situation.
I have about 1000 shares of Rivian stock. I want them to succeed but these are the challenges some of us face.
It may mean we change our destinations and stay closer to faster chargers and hope they continue to build out the network. But there are some really cool "adventure areas" out there we want to continue to explore.
I'm know the return on investment means adding more chargers in cities but that doesn't help the rural areas.
5 minutes of charge, 1% gained. That's a little funny.Even ABRP thinks you could make it charging for like 5 mins on one of the slow chargers:
You can add 1.5 ish miles per hour with any normal outlet. When I go to remote places for the weekend, I often add 60-70 miles with basic level 1 charging. I carry a 50ft 14 gauge extension cord in the frunk.
Exactly! Nothing like the feeling of watching the battery charge go up while going downhill
. The stretch from Silverthorne down to Golden is particularly sweet, doing downhill for 40 miles or so. Or Wolf Creek Pass to Pagosa Springs, amongst others.
I’ve carried this one with me for several years since we rented a cabin in remote mountains of CO, came in handy. Good to keep a selection of adapters handy too.
109 / .33 = 330.303Ok, so I drove from San Antonio to Fredericksburg west on I-10. This is a hilly stretch with some flat areas for 45 miles. I used UHF and set to 72 actually, temp was 95° A few vehicles ahead of me but not drafting. (Says 67 mph for a second while wife took the pic and I turned off UHF before exiting). No worries about range.
not if their software continues to crap out
Hey I just got the CH-R as a loaner for my serviced Highlander and their new software has had huge improvements!! Take that back because after my couple days, I their software should be upgraded to garbage+!
That is an incorrect assumption for many of us. For me, the range comparison is a medium to small sized bummer. I cant stand the MY look and am willing to "sacrifice" the 30 or so mile difference. I'm simply happier in an R2. The only time it even matters is road trips. I also love the idea that the R2 is going to be better in the snow for our ski trips. I suspect it would also be better in a crash (not sure about this - waiting for tests but I get the impression that if I were to be hit by a truck, I'd rather take my chances in a Rivian over a Tesla - does anyone have this info yet? I have to stop for bathroom breaks and food when I travel over 3hrs so the charge time will be irrelevant. I used to push and see how far I could go w/o stopping but now with the prostate of a 50yr old and kids of a 30 year old, it aint happen'n. R2, hurry up and get here (nov/dec).
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I agree that it is a very nice car, and it likely handles quite well. However, there is an acceptable threshold for range. Perhaps the R2's range is sufficient for most individuals, but for some, even a Tesla's range is not enough. I once took an Uber in a Tesla, which was my first time experiencing one, and I inquired with the drivers about the range. One driver stated the range was excellent, while another claimed it was terrible and advised against even considering it.
