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Because there is no official way to run an extension cord out of the R1S and being able to lock and secure the vehicle.
The only way to do it is by Jerry rigging and routing the extension cord through seals that can wear down or through a window that must remain open.

If Rivian just spent 5 minutes in designing the dongle, then all issues would be solved. May i remind u this is a 115k vehicle.

I will not accept having to leave my window open or having to force door seals because this should have been designed into the vehicle. And yes that is my opinion.

And if my opinion is wrong then they should stop calling it an adventure vehicle and sell it for 60k instead. Like a jeep.
Not sure what the demands such as "I will not accept having to leave my window open" etc mean.... If this is critical need for you seems you should own a different vehicle with the features you most want.

Sure I'd love if my R1 had more of these features, but it never has and likely will never have ones such as power from the charge port.

All vehicles have strengths and weaknesses. Even the cheapest and most expense vehicles. I don't understand your mindset.

Jeeps can also be purchased for over 100k.
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Our Ioniq 6 has a dongle with a single outlet, $99 from Lecteon. Unfortunately the lower level trim like ours doesn’t have an interior 120v plug. It is 15amp, so better than our Rivian’s.
 

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this is a feature i'm hoping for too, along with the ability to turn the outlets on/off from the app. i camp and ride a lot (stark varg as well) and being able to charge the bike at 240v would be a game changer for me.
 

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Because there is no official way to run an extension cord out of the R1S and being able to lock and secure the vehicle.
The only way to do it is by Jerry rigging and routing the extension cord through seals that can wear down or through a window that must remain open.

If Rivian just spent 5 minutes in designing the dongle, then all issues would be solved. May i remind u this is a 115k vehicle.

I will not accept having to leave my window open or having to force door seals because this should have been designed into the vehicle. And yes that is my opinion.

And if my opinion is wrong then they should stop calling it an adventure vehicle and sell it for 60k instead. Like a jeep.
It doesn't damage or deform the seals. Just plug in an extension cord and close the hatch. EZPZ.
 

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So please, b1tch and moan to Rivian to get their a$$es on this.
I don’t really like to bitch and moan about “this is a product I would like to buy”, I reserver that for “I bought a product that was sold as ‘doing that’ but now that I have it ’that’ is a thing it doesn’t do, please fix or refund"

So I bought an EV listed as having 12V out, some USB-C PD ports and two 120V AV 1500W sockets.

It didn’t list 240V or V2L, so as much as I would really like them (my home heating is an oil fired water heater and 5 120-ishW water circulation pumps, or really a mix of 85W and 120W pumps). It also gets very cold in the winter and if the water ever freezes repairs are expensive. I have a 230V 30A “generator plug” outside the house that powers those and a few other things. Running the generator is kind of a pain, and running it off of the giant battery in my R1S would be awesome.

So sure, I would love a V2L system. Plus I believe “house backup batteries” get their own fairly hefty tax credit, if the V2L box that would have to hang off the J1772-CCS port to talk to the R1S and also convert the DC to AC costs less then the credit I’ll buy one in an instant.

If cost after taxes runs out to under $5k to turn that into a whole home system, maybe under $10k I’ll take more then an instant to buy, but under a day.

Every other EV pickup has 240V output from their inverters. I don't see it as an unreasonable request.
It isn’t an unreasonable request, but it is unreasonable to demand it be retrofitted into prior vehicles shipped, especially by a company that needs to focus on getting to profitability as opposed to “make your customers like you by delivering free gifts a subset of them would enjoy!”.

And they should take responsibility and fix it, for everyone who is already a customer.
Yeah, there is my sticking point.

Did your Rivian come with “240V 20A” listed on the spec sheet anywhere? If so you have a point, it should get fixed. If not, well it wasn’t broken. It is already fixed.


Killer app for 240 vAC out: two words. Buddy charge.
Yeah, nice in theory. Especially for an adventure truck (or SUV), but I would have used that maybe zero times in five years. I could have talked smack about having it on the internets, but real world use? None. Feeding 240VAC into my house? That I would have done. Multiple times. We had a 3 day power outage last year. I would have pulled a fairly small amount of power, I run around 500W an hour for winter heat, and fridges and such. At least according to the gages on my backup panel. Ah, which didn’t include a floor chest freezer last year. Still for a freezer that best was efficient. So maybe 1% of my Rivian batter per hour for 3 days, the Genny I only ran about 12 hours a day even, so around a third of my battery? That would have been much quieter and nicer then the genny (which might have led me to running it overnight as well).
 

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It isn’t an unreasonable request, but it is unreasonable to demand it be retrofitted into prior vehicles shipped, especially by a company that needs to focus on getting to profitability as opposed to “make your customers like you by delivering free gifts a subset of them would enjoy!”.
I do agree with "don't retrofit if not capable." It's a request future vehicles, or for "out the charge port" if it happens to actually be possible.
 

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I do agree with "don't retrofit if not capable." It's a request future vehicles, or for "out the charge port" if it happens to actually be possible.
I seem to recall RJ talking about it as a future product, like a V2L accessory that I assume plugs into the charge port. He definitely was talking about how current R1s would be able to output a large amount of DC power and the R2 can do AC power. Something in the 20kW to 30kW range.

I assume that will be a few hundred dollars, or maybe a few thousand. No price nor timeframe was mentioned.
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