Vehicle to Load dongle from charge port!

[KBabione]

While it is true that the Rivian has 120 volt ports, unfortunately they are rather underpowered for some applications. I was planning to use the BLUETTI system to power my RV (I has 30 amp output) and charge the BLUETTI battery with the Rivian 120 volt outlet. Unfortunately that didn’t work as there wasn’t enough power from the outlet to convince the BLUETTI to start charging so that idea when down the drain. Another possibility it to charge it with the 12 volt outlets. I haven’t tried that yet but all the 12 volt outlets are in the cabin and the BLUETTI is in the bed.

A little move power from the 120 volt outlets would have been nice.

I have the Bluetti AC180 which is capable of outputting 1800W for about 40 minutes. I'll do a post about how I charge it while it's in use later this week...I recently finished a little project that helps me.

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[Thedude]

Try that with an RV air conditioner and let me know how it goes. You know....real camping.

I don’t think camping involves air conditioning. That’s firmly in the realm of glamping by the point.

 

[HyperionMark]

I don’t think camping involves air conditioning.

Says the guy that lives in Alaska.
Haha, just messing with you. I totally know it's glamping and I wouldn't do it any other way.

 

[KBabione]

The 1500W limit with the onboard inverter is usually okay for me, but I'd love a solution that would give me 30A service (3600W) when I need it. This thread made me smile because I mentally asked the same question: Why can't I hook up a 3600W inverter to the charge port and use it to power appliances? I have no idea of what it would take from Rivian's side to do this, but I'd love a V2L solution that would be plug & play.

 

[portdirect]

The charge port doesn't support AC coming out of the vehicle. That isn't gonna happen. I'd rather buy my own flat extension cord and route it as others have indicated. Who needs another overpriced accessory?

When Rivian does provide V2H it will be with DC out from the truck, to an external inverter to provide AC to a panel via interlock or transfer switch. I suppose there could be a 240V outlet on the inverter. Or, maybe a smaller inverter just for 120/240 outlets.

The gen2 R1s are supposed to be capable of AC output from the charge port. I’m pretty sure RJ said that the gen1 would only be able to do DC V2H, but gen2 would also be capable of 11kW AC V2H when they released their bidirectional EVSE.

edit: I apologize @BCondrey is spot on - its the R2 not Gen2 that will have this capability.

 

[CharonPDX]

I’d like to whine about you saying “Jerry-rigged” instead of the proper “Jury-rigged”

"Jerry-rigged" has been just as acceptable as "Jury-rigged" for over 130 years: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/jerry-built-vs-jury-rigged-vs-jerry-rigged-usage-history

 

[CharonPDX]

OP request for a better 120 connection seems reasonable. The request for 240 application is a stretch to me...

Eh.... Every other EV pickup has 240V output from their inverters. I don't see it as an unreasonable request.

Heck, even a proper 15A circuit would be nice. I have to use a power bank as a "buffer" between my R1T and my trailer, because the trailer's AC/heat pump startup current is 13A, which trips my R1T's breaker. (And that's on soft-start mode. Steady-state draw is under 10A.)

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

All I can continue to say, for them being heavily advertised as "ADVENTURE" vehicles, and they even CARV the Adventurous for ever on the panel wood, their on board power outlets are the weakest of all EV trucks in the industry.

And they should take responsibility and fix it, for everyone who is already a customer.

The 1500w max outlet on the back is a friking joke, I can trip it any second I want. Barely charges by Stark Varg, and I have to set the charge rate to 1.1kw because anything higher and the thing pukes on itself, and I gotta reset it.

we are going camping soon, and it's going to be cold, I plan to run a little fan heater inside the tent which its rated at 1500w, and I'll probably only be able to run it at medium which is 750w because the thing will trip the outlet on the rivian.

So I have to take the f150 lightning instead so I can charge my stark varg at 240v and run heater and anything else I need at the same time. problem is the lightning is on a lease and I have to keep the mileage on check....so I try not to drive it unless absolutely necessary, since its my work vehicle, and I drive 200+miles a day.

 

[MikeWilliams_R1T]

All I can continue to say, for them being heavily advertised as "ADVENTURE" vehicles, and they even CARV the Adventurous for ever on the panel wood, their on board power outlets are the weakest of all EV trucks in the industry.

And they should take responsibility and fix it, for everyone who is already a customer.

The 1500w max outlet on the back is a friking joke, I can trip it any second I want. Barely charges by Stark Varg, and I have to set the charge rate to 1.1kw because anything higher and the thing pukes on itself, and I gotta reset it.

we are going camping soon, and it's going to be cold, I plan to run a little fan heater inside the tent which its rated at 1500w, and I'll probably only be able to run it at medium which is 750w because the thing will trip the outlet on the rivian.

So I have to take the f150 lightning instead so I can charge my stark varg at 240v and run heater and anything else I need at the same time. problem is the lightning is on a lease and I have to keep the mileage on check....so I try not to drive it unless absolutely necessary, since its my work vehicle, and I drive 200+miles a day.

I agree that it would be nice if the inverter for outlets was a little beefier. On the other hand, we all knew what the truck does/doesn’t do and made a purchase decision. For me, the plug in the bed of my R1T was a nice to have not a necessity.

One actual solution is get one of the LFP power stations on the market. Yes, some are a little heavy and bulky but it won’t suck away range plus it’s another source of energy in a pinch. They range in size / price / ability between $100ish up to a few thousand dollars if you need several kWh of storage and a beefy inverter. Plus it can double duty as a virtual gas can for your car in a pinch if you charge off it.

I got mine so I can power the Air Conditioner on my travel trailer since the Rivian inverter isn’t quite strong enough. But it turns out I’ve used it for a bunch of other things since then nowhere near my truck, including powering part of my house for almost 2 days when a construction crew wiped out the buried electrical cable for part of my subdivision recently.

Maybe one day there will be a V2L solution for the charge port but I doubt it will be soon. If I still have my Rivian then, I would have to decide if it’s worth it. To some it will be. To others, it will not.

 

[captainjp]

"Jerry-rigged" has been just as acceptable as "Jury-rigged" for over 130 years: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/jerry-built-vs-jury-rigged-vs-jerry-rigged-usage-history

It’s still incorrect.

 

[csharp]

All I can continue to say, for them being heavily advertised as "ADVENTURE" vehicles, and they even CARV the Adventurous for ever on the panel wood, their on board power outlets are the weakest of all EV trucks in the industry.

And they should take responsibility and fix it, for everyone who is already a customer.

Sure, other EV trucks have better power outlet, no questions there. But you bought a vehicle knowing it DIDNT have that and now are complaining saying Rivian should "fix" something for people who already own the vehicle?! They never EVER claimed that they would have 120 OR 240 capabilities directly from the charge port.

While, yes, I agree it would be cool to have those features available from the charge port, there is zero reason for Rivian to "fix" something that isnt broken for existing customers.

 

[Zoidz]

All I can continue to say, for them being heavily advertised as "ADVENTURE" vehicles, and they even CARV the Adventurous for ever on the panel wood, their on board power outlets are the weakest of all EV trucks in the industry.

And they should take responsibility and fix it, for everyone who is already a customer.

The 1500w max outlet on the back is a friking joke, I can trip it any second I want. Barely charges by Stark Varg, and I have to set the charge rate to 1.1kw because anything higher and the thing pukes on itself, and I gotta reset it.

we are going camping soon, and it's going to be cold, I plan to run a little fan heater inside the tent which its rated at 1500w, and I'll probably only be able to run it at medium which is 750w because the thing will trip the outlet on the rivian.

So I have to take the f150 lightning instead so I can charge my stark varg at 240v and run heater and anything else I need at the same time. problem is the lightning is on a lease and I have to keep the mileage on check....so I try not to drive it unless absolutely necessary, since its my work vehicle, and I drive 200+miles a day.

By this logic, Rivian should be expected to retrofit any feature that any other sport/adventure vehicle delivers that Rivian is missing. That’s a ridiculous expectation. What vehicle manufacturer has done that, EVER?

Such a first world hardship that you have two EVs and are “forced” into making a decision about a use case.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Such a first world hardship that you have two EVs and are “forced” into making a decision about a use case.

It took a bit over four weeks of solar for my camper to add 70% back to my Polestar 2's battery last summer. I can and have run the AC for over 6 hours without being plugged into anything.

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

By this logic, Rivian should be expected to retrofit any feature that any other sport/adventure vehicle delivers that Rivian is missing. That’s a ridiculous expectation. What vehicle manufacturer has done that, EVER?

Such a first world hardship that you have two EVs and are “forced” into making a decision about a use case.

Rivians teslas lucids they all only exist because of "first world" hardship.

Otherwise we would be talking only about horses and saddles.

So yep, you just proved the point of why that is exactly why these expectations exist. ?

 

[HyperionMark]

I have an EcoFlow Delta 3 Plus arriving today for this exact purpose. Should fit in the gear tunnel beautifully and trickle charge from the 12V or 120V(or solar if I'm boondocking). And like others have said, great uses other places as well.

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