Chromecast vs AirPlay

[CrazyOne]

You did a great job avoiding the question I asked. We were talking about your MAZDA, not your phone. We both know it didn't get updates and feature additions anywhere close to what Rivian does.

No Mazda itself doesn't get more updates. But it works with my phone so we'll, it doesn't matter.

My MAZDA itself doesn't get more updates. Hope it helps you.

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[Donald Stanfield]

No Mazda itself doesn't get more updates. But it works with my phone so we'll, it doesn't matter.

My MAZDA itself doesn't get more updates. Hope it helps you.

So your phone allows it to change throttle maps, add snow modes, pet modes, car wash mode, vehicle gauge, and info screens like the one on the drive mode screen on the Rivian? All those things were software updates my Rivian got since I bought my original quad in September 22. There were more vehicle features added above and beyond what you'd get with a CP integration; I just remembered those off-hand.

CP gained some things for you but lost others, so it's not as if it's an upgrade to what we have. It's easy to praise it if we don't think about its short comings, but that's not exactly fair. It's probably something you'd agree with, since you aren't still driving that Mazda.

 

[CrazyOne]

So your phone allows it to change throttle maps, add snow modes, pet modes, car wash mode, vehicle gauge, and info screens like the one on the drive mode screen on the Rivian? All those things were software updates my Rivian got since I bought my original quad in September 22. There were more vehicle features added above and beyond what you'd get with a CP integration; I just remembered those off-hand.

CP gained some things for you but lost others, so it's not as if it's an upgrade to what we have. It's easy to praise it if we don't think about its short comings, but that's not exactly fair. It's probably something you'd agree with, since you aren't still driving that Mazda.

I bought Mazda because I liked it when I drove it , before buying.

I liked Rivian too when I did a test drive. It's the same car. Throttle is about the same today. Suspension got worse, then a lot worse and it back to where it started. Btw, what's wrong with giving full control instead of pushing these updates with unknown suspension settings. You select a height and then select damper settings independently.

The only real improvement is the Meridian audio. It was pretty bad, and it is pretty good now

We have 3 cars on the household and I drive all three.

 

[CoastalR1T]

Not having partaken of the apple juice, I'm happy there is no carplay, airplay or Coldplay...

#notshotoniphone

 

[Killer95Stang]

Not having partaken of the apple juice, I'm happy there is no carplay, airplay or Coldplay...

#notshotoniphone

I might listen to cold play once In a while... but not on an Iphone

 

[Hillbilly]

Fine with me..I am not a fan of apple's ecosystem and cult like followers. It's very much a "we don't play well with others" ethos. As such, I'm always happy to see other companies say "fine, we won't play with you".

 

[Riviaenz]

Does peacock work?

No, I tried it and all that I see available is AirPlay. The GooCast option never appears as others claim It should.

Running iOS 18.2 on 15Pro.

 

[Fmc]

No, I tried it and all that I see available is AirPlay. The GooCast option never appears as others claim It should.

Running iOS 18.2 on 15Pro.

Peacock works..make sure to enable local networks in the settings

 

[RedDragon]

So casting requires connection to Rivian hotspot. Is the actual streaming data coming from my phone (5G) or the vehicle (LTE)? I've seen both answers.

Is the "casting" just telling the Rivian where to go get the data or is the phone sending this data to the Rivian via WIFI?

Just asking because I think my phone will be more reliable in more situations with high volume video data

 

[HaveBlue]

I am not advocating for CarPlay but the addition of chromecast seems a bit hypocritical. The anti-CarPlay rationale was that Rivian wanted to control the experience but now the driver is controlling the experience. but I guess Rivian would say they control the ‘driving’ experience and the driver controls the ‘parking’ experience.
I am happy to have cast and indifferent on CarPlay but it seems like a pro-Google anti-Apple stance.

Rivian doesn't support Android Auto either so there's no bias. Niether are supported as they aren't going to provide trip planning and adjustment based on vehicle range. Iphones can use Chromecast

 

[Spork8]

So casting requires connection to Rivian hotspot. Is the actual streaming data coming from my phone (5G) or the vehicle (LTE)? I've seen both answers.

Is the "casting" just telling the Rivian where to go get the data or is the phone sending this data to the Rivian via WIFI?

Just asking because I think my phone will be more reliable in more situations with high volume video data

Casting in general requires the sender (your phone in this case) and receiver (the R1 in this case) to be on the same network (WiFi or LAN or Both, in this case WiFi). The way Rivian has it currently, the R1 has to be providing the data connection and operate on its own WiFi hotspot. You can use your phone as a hotspot and have the R1 connect to it, and I believe many people have done this for their media without Connect+, but that won't work in this case - hopefully that isn't the case going forward though.

 

[Riviaenz]

Not having partaken of the apple juice, I'm happy there is no carplay, airplay or Coldplay...

#notshotoniphone

Ironic you are the only one allowed to tread where you please. You should let others tread where they please as well.

 

[Riviaenz]

Peacock works..make sure to enable local networks in the settings

Thanks, that worked.

 

[flush]

Casting in general requires the sender (your phone in this case) and receiver (the R1 in this case) to be on the same network (WiFi or LAN or Both, in this case WiFi). The way Rivian has it currently, the R1 has to be providing the data connection and operate on its own WiFi hotspot. You can use your phone as a hotspot and have the R1 connect to it, and I believe many people have done this for their media without Connect+, but that won't work in this case - hopefully that isn't the case going forward though.

When you cast from phone to Rivian car, the Rivian display MUST use the car's data connection to retrieve the streaming media. Your phone is the "glorified" remote control, but both must be on the same network (aka Rivian has required it to be the car's hotspot).

As for the car's data connection, I don't know if Rivian vehicle can connect to both of these at once:
[1] a wifi network (home network)
[2] enable hotspot (creating the in-car wifi network)

If it does, logically, then the hotspot is where your phone connects to, in order to cast. And the wifi home network will be used to retrieve the streaming media for the car. But the car is also connected to LTE at the same time .... i'm not particularly inclined to dig deeper because the chances of streaming in the car, while at home, connected to home wifi is practically nil. However, this did work for me when I was testing the casting features.

 

[blank_lemur]

I think the biggest difference between Casting and Airplay to note: Casting sends control data from the sender to the receiver, whereas Airplay is sending an actual video stream from sender to receiver. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Rivian supported both (which is an actual possibility in the future ... plenty of Airplay receivers out there that are not Apple devices). Now let's say you wanted to stream something from Hulu, which supports both. Here's how it would be different:

• Casting
  • Hulu app on your phone tells Rivian how to stream the video (i'm assuming a normal URL with some token/authentication embedded)
  • You can control (pause, skip forward/back, etc) from your phone or the car.
  • The stream does NOT require your phone. The car streams directly from the source.
  • Stream pathway: HULU -> Rivian
  • You can do other things on your phone while your car plays the stream.
• Airplay
  • iOS/Hulu app starts streaming the show and then sends the video stream to the Rivian.
  • The video stream requires your phone.
  • Your phone will use more battery because it's processing the video stream.
  • Stream pathway: HULU -> iphone -> Rivian
  • You can NOT do other things on your phone while you Airplay.

Another note on functionality for casting and likely Airplay if it ever supported it, Rivian requires your device to be on the car's Hotspot. I'm assuming that's a security measure so that any wifi you happen to join doesn't let random devices control your casting or expose those APIs unnecessarily. This is generally a good thing in my book, though kind of annoying to have to join the hotspot. It would be nice if they add a way to flag a specific wifi network as "safe" to allow those protocols in the future ... but who knows.

Personally, I almost always prefer casting and I'm nearly 100% an Apple ecosystem household. I'll use Airplay when I need to screen mirror something (which is effectively what Airplay is doing for apps like Hulu ... it's basically app-mirroring).

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