My own Driver+ horror story

[SwampNut]

Changes in road conditions/surfaces (especially due to construction) are hard for Driver+.

100%, even a minor lane deviation is critically upsetting to D+.

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[Hereforthesnacks]

I have extremely high trust in Tesla AP. I've never been able to trust the Rivian. I use the D+ feature but pay very close attention to it. With the Tesla I'd pull out a laptop or eat lunch without a thought.

(Yes, go for it, please feel free to use any language to describe how stupid that is, I'm good with it.)

Sorry, but I don’t think anyone cares enough to talk to you about your choices lol.

Now, if you get into an accident and hurt someone, I’m also pretty sure you won’t get a ton of visitors in jail lol

 

[iBang]

Rivian Driver+ is useless if you are driving on wavy freeway. Every time the road curves it slows down. The car behind me goes crazy. It's very annoying.

 

[Kidentist]

Driver + needs more work? Agreed 100%, it's a mediocre level 2 at best.
FSD? No Thank you, I might as well hire a chauffeur "full time".....

 

[SwampNut]

I might as well hire a chauffeur "full time".....

Maybe you can afford that, but for the rest of us, there's FSD. Except that's overpriced too.

 

[Kidentist]

Maybe you can afford that, but for the rest of us, there's FSD. Except that's overpriced too.

LOL.....no way Jose, unless I count my 16 yo. I just don't believe FSD should ever be the main focus. Give me decent lane centering and I'll be happy. My wife's Cayenne has better lane centering and works on all roads.......it's not rocket science.

 

[zymolysis]

What is really going on?

I think you are asking about Highway Assist, not Driver+. Using the correct nomenclature would help.
https://rivian.com/support/article/what-features-are-included-in-rivian-driver

 

[eskudo12791]

I think gen1 radar ends up picking bridges up from the radar being reflected off the ground. So when the phantom braking happens, it's because the data between the two systems actually does correlate. I'm not sure if gen2 fixes this, but it's definitely different equipment.

I will have to respectfully disagree. The same radar handles adaptive cruise control quite well so that wouldn't align with some sort of reflecting. My previous Tesla used radar + cameras and was great with bridges, hell; my prius prime using opensource comma ai that fuses a cell phone camera with the cars radar was better than driver +

 

[Treebeard]

It takes nerves of steel to let any car steer past the semis and other traffic on a winding freeway. Especially with the Rivian moving jerkily from one side of the lane to the other. In a separate incident, the Rivian seemed to lose the lane after an especially abrupt dip in the road. I might have imagined that one. Anyway it's always nerve-wracking. I don't have any experience at all with other lane-keeping systems. I've read the horror stories by other Rivian drivers, but thought they were mistaken or overblown. I had a lot of confidence in the Rivian system. At least I tried hard to let it steer and not overreact. Then this happened. I was northbound in I-15 in Utah county. To the right was a semi with a trailer. It was mostly ahead of me and just the last few feet were next to me. The freeway curved right. The truck curved and the Rivian curved. Then the road straightened out. They always do. The truck straightened out but the Rivian didn't. It kept turning. I didn't wait to see if the Rivian would get out of it by itself. It would have taken an abrupt swerve to the left that would have been dangerous itself. That scared me a lot. I've concluded Driver+ is only safe on straight sections without a lot of cars around it. It definitely needs more work. In fact it shouldn't even be characterized as self-steering unless it can steer safely all the time. We're talking about the safety of human beings, that's a big deal. It's that split second when it isn't safe that really matters. The R2's will have an improved system with more cameras. So the R1 doesn't have enough cameras so it can never have self-driving? What is really going on?

Ive never had a steering issue. I have had it try to stop on the freeway at 70 mph.

 

[Rividiculous]

I have extremely high trust in Tesla AP. I've never been able to trust the Rivian. I use the D+ feature but pay very close attention to it. With the Tesla I'd pull out a laptop or eat lunch without a thought.

(Yes, go for it, please feel free to use any language to describe how stupid that is, I'm good with it.)

As they say, It’s the snake you don’t see that bites you.

 

[All Rived Up]

As a New Rivian "Lurker" can someone please explain the difference between "Adaptive Cruise Control" and "Driver +" or is it the same?

 

[HaveBlue]

Driver + is a suite of features.
Adaptive cruise control is one of them that regulates the follow distance for you when using cruise control.
Highway assist adds a feature to also steer the vehicle and keep it in the current lane.

 

[allisgoodman]

Rivian needs to up their game on the assisted driving space. They are lagging too much behind. Upgrading the hardware without software following is not going to gain them much confidence from customers and investors.

 

[SwampNut]

As they say, It’s the snake you don’t see that bites you.

This is why I look them in the eye as I grab them.

Rivian needs to up their game on the assisted driving space. They are lagging too much behind. Upgrading the hardware without software following is not going to gain them much confidence from customers and investors.

They may be banking on the people who don't know what good self-driving features look like, and the fact that there's limited competition right now. But when a GOOD electric truck comes around with real ADAS, I'm gone. They are lucky that right now all the other electric trucks are a joke.

 

[JonW716]

I just did a 1,200 mile road trip and driver+ worked pretty well. When stopped in city driving the way it “ghosts” vehicles made me realize you have to be 100% focused on the road. It would be nice if this feature was better, but if I wanted self driving I would have bought a Tesla…..

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