Vehicle to Load dongle from charge port!

[Joe schmoe]

By this logic, Rivian should be expected to retrofit any feature that any other sport/adventure vehicle delivers that Rivian is missing. That’s a ridiculous expectation. What vehicle manufacturer has done that, EVER?

Such a first world hardship that you have two EVs and are “forced” into making a decision about a use case.

That's a bit of a straw man. No one that I've seen is advocating for "any feature that any other..."

I think it's entirely reasonable to ask for something that is common across the majority of vehicles in the market segment. A unique advantage of EVs is the enormous battery required for normal operation. If the battery is already there, why not provide a 30 or 50 amp circuit that is pretty much the standard at campsites used by RVs and trailers...

The inverters aren't super cheap, but if a $500 portable battery can do it then it should be straightforward to add it to an EV (as do the other EV truck manufacturers)

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[csharp]

I think it's entirely reasonable to ask for something that is common across the majority of vehicles in the market segment.

Very reasonable to ask for that on future vehicles and generations. NOT reasonable to ask for the manufacturer to retrofit the update on existing vehicles...which is what the OP is asking for.

 

[Zoidz]

That's a bit of a straw man. No one that I've seen is advocating for "any feature that any other..."

I think it's entirely reasonable to ask for something that is common across the majority of vehicles in the market segment. A unique advantage of EVs is the enormous battery required for normal operation. If the battery is already there, why not provide a 30 or 50 amp circuit that is pretty much the standard at campsites used by RVs and trailers...

The inverters aren't super cheap, but if a $500 portable battery can do it then it should be straightforward to add it to an EV (as do the other EV truck manufacturers)

I completely agree that GOING FORWARD it's reasonsble.

And they should take responsibility and fix it, for everyone who is already a customer.

BUT - OP said that Rivian should be responsible for retrofitting all vehicles because the feature exists in other brands.

I guess then it is reasonable for me to say that because Rivian, Hummer, Defender, etc. all claim over 30" of water fording, my Avalanche should be retrofitted.

 

[Joe schmoe]

I completely agree that GOING FORWARD it's reasonsble.


BUT - OP said that Rivian should be responsible for retrofitting all vehicles because the feature exists in other brands.

I guess then it is reasonable for me to say that because Rivian, Hummer, Defender, etc. all claim over 30" of water fording, my Avalanche should be retrofitted.

I missed that he was advocating retrofitting, which I think is unreasonable.

I -would- like to see accessory inverter that I could plug into the charge port to power a camper (or my house). RJ stated early one that that the Gen1 vehicles were capable of V2L, and this is an obvious use case. I'd happily pay what I'd have to spend on a midrange EcoFlow of something, the electronics are basically the same.

Like many others on the forum, I've bought an EcoFlow as a "buffer" to run my induction cooktop, coffeemaker, etc. I can recharge it from the Rivian (slowly) but that's a hassle and I'd much rather have access to my enormous HV battery.

 

[Zoidz]

I missed that he was advocating retrofitting, which I think is unreasonable.

I -would- like to see accessory inverter that I could plug into the charge port to power a camper (or my house). RJ stated early one that that the Gen1 vehicles were capable of V2L, and this is an obvious use case. I'd happily pay what I'd have to spend on a midrange EcoFlow of something, the electronics are basically the same.

Like many others on the forum, I've bought an EcoFlow as a "buffer" to run my induction cooktop, coffeemaker, etc. I can recharge it from the Rivian (slowly) but that's a hassle and I'd much rather have access to my enormous HV battery.

I believe it when they say they are working on it and will provide it.

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But it's likely taken a second tier priority with all resources (engineering, procurement, manufacturing) focusing on R2. Rivian is dedicated to vertical integration and there was a post here a while backing suggesting that the V2x stuff was all being developed in house. But sometimes, for low volume hardware, it's just quicker to outsource to someone else. I suspect that depending on price, Rivian's future V2x hardware will be purchased by only 10% - 20% of Rivian owners?

I have a hybrid backup power and heat setup. I have had a dino fuel 7500 watt generator for years with a whole house transfer switch which works fine. I also have a homebrew mobile 2000 watt inverter with solar charged 200 Amp LION batteries, working on a 15kw - 18kw solar ground mount install.

Multiple heat options - 1000 gallon propane tank and fireplace, and an 85k BTU wood burning fireplace. And about 50 to 75 dead fall ash trees for fuel.

If/when Rivian offers something, I'll seriously consider it. I like having plenty of options.

 

[CharonPDX]

It’s still incorrect.

Language changes. (Especially English.) "Jerry Rigged" became acceptable *LONG* before you were born.

I have my grandfather's school-age dictionary. In it, "computer" is a job title, not a piece of equipment. (As in: Computer (n): a person who does computations.) Does that mean calling the thing I'm typing this on "a computer" is incorrect because it's not a person?

 

[KBabione]

If anyone's interested, I just created this thread showing how I charge my Bluetti AC180 from the Rivian while drawing more than 1500W. Not really V2L, but given some of the other comments above I thought it was time for me to write up what I did.

 

[captainjp]

Language changes. (Especially English.) "Jerry Rigged" became acceptable *LONG* before you were born.

I have my grandfather's school-age dictionary. In it, "computer" is a job title, not a piece of equipment. (As in: Computer (n): a person who does computations.) Does that mean calling the thing I'm typing this on "a computer" is incorrect because it's not a person?

Well, a computer is something that computes. Correct? So that transition makes sense. What is a rigged Jerry?

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

I never used the word retrofit, so yall putting words on my mouth that I didn't use.

What i did say is rivian can/should and we wont stop asking for them to design and make a solution so the current r1's can all do v2l, whether via a dongle or whatever it needs to be. It is possible, without having to swap out Internal equipment from The vehicles.

 

[CharonPDX]

Well, a computer is something that computes. Correct? So that transition makes sense. What is a rigged Jerry?

Jerry: nickname for Germans. See “Jerry Can”

Even before WW1, it was a thing to call “hastily fixed” after Germans, it was really a thing during WW1 as a bit of a derogatory statement toward Germans.

 

[GA_Rivian]

Does anyone know of a small-ish unit something like the bluetti AC200MAX but with 240VAC pure-sine output? We can power most stuff in the house we need with the R1T as is off the 120, rotating from fridg to freezer, etc., but the well pump is 30A 240VAC. I think the AC200MAX would handle that but the 30A outlet is only 120VAC. We don't need continuous power for anything, so recharging from the truck as discussed here would work great.

 

[Thedude]

All I can continue to say, for them being heavily advertised as "ADVENTURE" vehicles, and they even CARV the Adventurous for ever on the panel wood, their on board power outlets are the weakest of all EV trucks in the industry.

And they should take responsibility and fix it, for everyone who is already a customer.

The 1500w max outlet on the back is a friking joke, I can trip it any second I want. Barely charges by Stark Varg, and I have to set the charge rate to 1.1kw because anything higher and the thing pukes on itself, and I gotta reset it.

we are going camping soon, and it's going to be cold, I plan to run a little fan heater inside the tent which its rated at 1500w, and I'll probably only be able to run it at medium which is 750w because the thing will trip the outlet on the rivian.

So I have to take the f150 lightning instead so I can charge my stark varg at 240v and run heater and anything else I need at the same time. problem is the lightning is on a lease and I have to keep the mileage on check....so I try not to drive it unless absolutely necessary, since its my work vehicle, and I drive 200+miles a day.

Be a man. Sleep in the cold with a sleeping bag and buy a real dirt bike. Problem solved.

 

[MikeWilliams_R1T]

Does anyone know of a small-ish unit something like the bluetti AC200MAX but with 240VAC pure-sine output? We can power most stuff in the house we need with the R1T as is off the 120, rotating from fridg to freezer, etc., but the well pump is 30A 240VAC. I think the AC200MAX would handle that but the 30A outlet is only 120VAC. We don't need continuous power for anything, so recharging from the truck as discussed here would work great.

https://www.ankersolix.com/products/f3800-new

 

[captainjp]

Jerry: nickname for Germans. See “Jerry Can”

Even before WW1, it was a thing to call “hastily fixed” after Germans, it was really a thing during WW1 as a bit of a derogatory statement toward Germans.

It’s actually derived from Jerry-built which means that something was built with shit-quality materials and craftsmanship. Jury-rigged is a nautical term meaning something’s been rigged up however possible to get by.

No matter, though. It was an attempt at being funny. No need to go off-topic.
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[R1S-DMPerformance]

Be a man. Sleep in the cold with a sleeping bag and buy a real dirt bike. Problem solved.

I don't sleep alone like you do, so she wants the tent to be nice and warm.

And u say day and place, I'll happily smoke you on whatever gas dirt bike u got ?

I'll be at the biltwell 100, so show up buddy.

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