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To clarify I have a Gen 1 single battery. I looked up the part number (pt00099731-B) and I think it's a battery sensor with a ground wire harness. I measured with a multimeter between the positive terminal and both the "sensor" and the wire below that. The "sensor" wire and the wire below that are at the same voltage, which should be ground. The "sensor" wire is attached to the negative terminal of the battery and the wire below that is attached to the frame of the car. I'm guessing that's to set ground at the same voltage level. I'm not sure if hooking up my trickle charger to the frame connected ground wire would have made a difference? Unfortunately I can't test that either since my car is bricked atm ?
Yup, my guess would have been the same as yours. Weird it bricked itself out. I would probably try disconnecting ALL power (12V and HV) to the truck, and then reconnect it back to see if that resuscitates it. If something is fried, this won't work, but if it was a safety shutoff, I'm sure it will come back alive.
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[WARNING]: I tried to set up a trickle charger with my Feb 2024 R1S (single 12V battery), and ended up somehow bricking it. I'm hoping maybe someone can help point out something dumb I did.

I had a simple setup, using the Noco Genius5 trickle charger set to 12v AGM hooking up the terminals to the following points
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My Rivian then threw 12V faults and went into turtle mode. I removed the charger, but the faults didn't clear so I did a reset. After the reset all my screens are dead, however there still is 12.4V across the battery terminals. I did notice, the negative terminal of my battery separates the sensor and the main negative wire, which is different than some other builds (e.g. link). Perhaps I somehow shorted the sensor?
If you park in a garage, you should try the battery tender + OBD2 port method like I did. Been using it for months without issue. Regarding your problem, I'd disconnect 12V, wait a bit (say an hour), then reconnect. If that doesn't resolve, then it seems like a service visit is in your future. I'd refrain from telling them what you did and remove the wires you installed to the terminals.
 

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On my G2 R1S I tried using a battery tender through the 7-pin trailer connector. It works until the truck goes to sleep. Had it working for a while in camp mode and then it quit. I don't believe any of the trailer wires have a direct connection to the battery as I was getting a mid 10v reading a lot of the time. Can also confirm the jump start terminals are not live.

I won't be messing with the 7-pin anymore.

Rivian R1T R1S Gen 1 Vampire Drain (Possibly) Solved (or Hacked) IMG_0389


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Yup. I
On my G2 R1S I tried using a battery tender through the 7-pin trailer connector. It works until the truck goes to sleep. Had it working for a while in camp mode and then it quit. I don't believe any of the trailer wires have a direct connection to the battery as I was getting a mid 10v reading a lot of the time. Can also confirm the jump start terminals are not live.

I won't be messing with the 7-pin anymore.

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Yes. It's known that those wires aren't direct to the battery and most likely kept that way on G2
 

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I’m a big NOCO fan. I’m seriously considering an R2T. Just started researching and not even sure about the gen 1 and gen 2 differences. Is access to the 12v battery easy? Real PIA on a Tesla MS.

Would this vampire drain issue be big enough to not buy a gen 1?
 

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I’m a big NOCO fan. I’m seriously considering an R2T. Just started researching and not even sure about the gen 1 and gen 2 differences. Is access to the 12v battery easy? Real PIA on a Tesla MS.

Would this vampire drain issue be big enough to not buy a gen 1?
Gen 1 batteries are very easily accessible, Gen2 I don't know, Rivian moved it to under the front passenger seat.

Vampire Drain is big, but if you drive it daily isn't an issue at all. You might lose about 1.5kWh/daily depending on your specific case.
 

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I’m a big NOCO fan. I’m seriously considering an R2T. Just started researching and not even sure about the gen 1 and gen 2 differences. Is access to the 12v battery easy? Real PIA on a Tesla MS.

Would this vampire drain issue be big enough to not buy a gen 1?
I looked at our Gen2 R1S and didn't see an obvious way to remove the battery without taking out the seat. You can see part of the battery and it appears to be a very small battery same or similar to the Gen1.

I've got a 15a battery charger coming tomorrow and an OBD2 adapter. We put our car freezer/fridges in a few days before we leave on a long trip. Already lost 3% today in just 8 hours running only one freezer. I'm hoping a 15a charger/tender will allow it to sleep. No way that the freezer used 4.23kw of power in just 8 hours. Rivians consume a lot of power when they aren't sleeping.
 

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I looked at our Gen2 R1S and didn't see an obvious way to remove the battery without taking out the seat. You can see part of the battery and it appears to be a very small battery same or similar to the Gen1.

I've got a 15a battery charger coming tomorrow and an OBD2 adapter. We put our car freezer/fridges in a few days before we leave on a long trip. Already lost 3% today in just 8 hours running only one freezer. I'm hoping a 15a charger/tender will allow it to sleep. No way that the freezer used 4.23kw of power in just 8 hours. Rivians consume a lot of power when they aren't sleeping.
Unless you can reduce the output of the 15A tender it won’t work with the obd2 adapter. Max 3A.
 

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Unless you can reduce the output of the 15A tender it won’t work with the obd2 adapter. Max 3A.
Damn. I'm glad you said something. I was planning on making my own adapter. I searched and it looks like the max current through OBD2 is 6 amps and the Deltran adapter has a max current of 3 amps. I need to figure out how to put a pigtail directly on the battery.

EDIT: Just educated myself that I really shouldn't put more than 4 amps of charge into an 18ah battery and 3 amps would be a better idea. Sometimes I get way way ahead of myself.

Thanks for cluing me in before I fried my R1S battery or worse. Never really dawned on me that my zero turn mower has a bigger battery than my R1S. The 15a charger I have coming puts out 3a in trickle mode. Still going to try to get a pigtail directly on the battery.
 
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Here is what the battery access (or lack thereof) looks like on the Gen2. That's a 10a fuse. There is an accessible negative post but no positive post.

Rivian R1T R1S Gen 1 Vampire Drain (Possibly) Solved (or Hacked) IMG_0423
 

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Thanks for this great hack. I've connected a trickle charger thru the ODB2 port adapter suggested.
Any idea why my (Schumacher) 1.5A charger is occasionally aborting overnight? The owners manual for the charger does not say WHY it aborts, only that:
"if charging cannot be completed normally, charging will abort." [and the charger's output is shut off.]​
Reconnecting it clears the error and it appears to charge normally again for some time. Any ideas?

Or, can anyone recommend a trickle charger they have used successfully for the vampire drain hack.

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Thanks for this great hack. I've connected a trickle charger thru the ODB2 port adapter suggested.
Any idea why my (Schumacher) 1.5A charger is occasionally aborting overnight? The owners manual for the charger does not say WHY it aborts, only that:
"if charging cannot be completed normally, charging will abort." [and the charger's output is shut off.]​
Reconnecting it clears the error and it appears to charge normally again for some time. Any ideas?

Or, can anyone recommend a trickle charger they have used successfully for the vampire drain hack.

Thanks,
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The 3A Battery Tender from Amazon works. See previous post above for link
 

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Vampire Drain with Vehicle Shipping Mode enabled:

Just made it back from my 7-day Spring-break trip and I left my Gen1 Quad Motor R1T in my garage with Shipping Mode this time to compare VD from the previous time I left my truck in the same garage with the same(ish) temperatures at home.

For reference, I lost a bit more than 1% a day the last time (as expected) for a total of 7.5% (9.8kWh lost) in 7 days while in the same period and garage, my wife's '22 Tesla Model 3 RWD Standard lost 1.8kWh for comparison (Both cars with Gear Guard/Sentry disabled at home).

This time with Vehicle Shipping Mode enabled, my R1T lost 2.5% (3.2kWh lost) in 7 days while the Model 3 lost 1.75kWh (very consistent!) in the same garage and period.

Rivian R1T R1S Gen 1 Vampire Drain (Possibly) Solved (or Hacked) 1742568343147-hk

(just one random dat capture of what happened while away but it was pretty much every day the same)

R1T went from cycles of Ëś7hrs sleeping + 2hrs awake to ~25hrs Sleeping/2.5hrs awake (Normal vs Shipping modes). Also, when I woke her up this morning, I observed the screens booting with the Rivian logo, so the computers were REALLY REALLY off (and took them about 45 secs to fully boot).

Overall very interesting to see this and it got me thinking that Rivian might consider this "deep sleep state" as a default state to enter after (let's say) 36hrs of inactivity or something like that :) Maybe even with options to adjust for different use-cases like 36/48/72/96hrs options (in case you normally don't use your car during weekends and would like to avoid a 1 minute boot time on Monday morning or things like that).

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^ seems like they kind of fixed shipping mode again. Back in the day, I would only lose a consistent 0.5kWh/day on my 2023 R1T in Shipping Mode. But, sometime in the late summer of 2023 they "broke" Shipping Mode to where there was no discernible difference in VD if Shipping Mode was on or off.
 

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^ seems like they kind of fixed shipping mode again. Back in the day, I would only lose a consistent 0.5kWh/day on my 2023 R1T in Shipping Mode. But, sometime in the late summer of 2023 they "broke" Shipping Mode to where there was no discernible difference in VD if Shipping Mode was on or off.
Definitely working now :)
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